. It's manouvrable, it's pen is amazing, and it vets fast, really fast.One of my favourite tanks in the game for sure!
Leave some love for the firefly here
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13 Aug 2016, 09:18 AM
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I just need to make this thread. I never play brits. N e v e r. Just played some brits games, and man that firefly . It's manouvrable, it's pen is amazing, and it vets fast, really fast.
One of my favourite tanks in the game for sure!
Leave some love for the firefly here
. It's manouvrable, it's pen is amazing, and it vets fast, really fast.One of my favourite tanks in the game for sure!
Leave some love for the firefly here
13 Aug 2016, 10:21 AM
#2
Posts: 213
The changes made in the last major patch were great. The firefly is much more consistent now.
Before it was a bit hit and miss and relied too much on the tulips. Its less of a one trick pony now and has great synergy with the Churchill who can screen and take damage for it.
Before it was a bit hit and miss and relied too much on the tulips. Its less of a one trick pony now and has great synergy with the Churchill who can screen and take damage for it.
13 Aug 2016, 10:51 AM
#3
Posts: 139
Easy target for Jagdtiger or Command Panther + Jagdpanzer.
13 Aug 2016, 10:52 AM
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Easy target for Jagdtiger or Command Panther + Jagdpanzer.
Everything is an easy target for Jagditger or Command Panter + Jagdpanzer lol
13 Aug 2016, 11:02 AM
#5
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I loved the firefly before the buff to rate of fire, I never really used the old tulips, only on heavier Armour.
I loved going hammer for warspeed (to get out of sticky situations) and vehicle tracking which lasts 12 seconds (good when combined with warspeed for backing up against panthers)
I liked to go dual firefly's and croc (which can also have warspeed)
With the recent buff to the rate of fire I'm loving it, I also love the tulip change allowing me to have the ability to give out a shot without a chance to take one.
The power of the vet 3 firefly is nothing to mess with.
Since it isn't allowing me to start the video at the correct time, so skip to 57:15 to see what dual Firefly's and a jackson can do to dual panthers (how fast both die)
Personally I like to combo firefly's with a Churchill but with what you get with hammer (warspeed and tracking) making the firefly a hard to kill beast, especially with a Churchill (I like to go vanguard for the croc, stafe against dual OST and the capping ability on the croc to use on VPs, which has made me win many games before)
Really your biggest threats are Jagtiger/Elephants and mass ranged paks.
But 1+ Firefly best TD imo
I loved going hammer for warspeed (to get out of sticky situations) and vehicle tracking which lasts 12 seconds (good when combined with warspeed for backing up against panthers)
I liked to go dual firefly's and croc (which can also have warspeed)
With the recent buff to the rate of fire I'm loving it, I also love the tulip change allowing me to have the ability to give out a shot without a chance to take one.
The power of the vet 3 firefly is nothing to mess with.
Since it isn't allowing me to start the video at the correct time, so skip to 57:15 to see what dual Firefly's and a jackson can do to dual panthers (how fast both die)
Personally I like to combo firefly's with a Churchill but with what you get with hammer (warspeed and tracking) making the firefly a hard to kill beast, especially with a Churchill (I like to go vanguard for the croc, stafe against dual OST and the capping ability on the croc to use on VPs, which has made me win many games before)
Really your biggest threats are Jagtiger/Elephants and mass ranged paks.
But 1+ Firefly best TD imo
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13 Aug 2016, 11:05 AM
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It's like 2013 v 2016.
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13 Aug 2016, 11:36 AM
#7
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Of all TD, Firefly scales the best with vet (not counting Jadpanzer with Klingon cloaking field). Soviet/USF can only dreams of having good AT like UKF.
13 Aug 2016, 12:14 PM
#8
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So a turretless tank destroyer stunning with twp was deemed op, but a turreted one with much higher dps having it is fine.
13 Aug 2016, 14:54 PM
#9
Posts: 1617
So a turretless tank destroyer stunning with twp was deemed op, but a turreted one with much higher dps having it is fine.
Double standards
But the firefly is sexy af
13 Aug 2016, 15:18 PM
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So a turretless tank destroyer stunning with twp was deemed op, but a turreted one with much higher dps having it is fine.
It's dodgeable.
Tobis "Complete Throw"
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13 Aug 2016, 15:22 PM
#11
Posts: 85
firefly is the best allied tank destroyer they have, therefore it has to bring a lot of love!
Great tank though. The entire british tank lineup is incredible - too bad the other allied factions have nothing that compares.
Great tank though. The entire british tank lineup is incredible - too bad the other allied factions have nothing that compares.
13 Aug 2016, 15:26 PM
#12
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13 Aug 2016, 15:34 PM
#13
Posts: 1063
Not with this game's pathing.
Tulip ain't exactly the most reliable tools either, it loves to clip at dirt/fences.
13 Aug 2016, 20:47 PM
#14
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It's like 2013 v 2016.
Lmao.
But on a side note, I should use it more with Croc, Hammer and Vanguard, been going Anvil and Special Weapons heavy these past games for the heavy sappers and half-track combo (mobility wise it's awesome on a big/long map) to get those quick repairs out.
And besides, wanted to try that Screen with the regular Churchills, see how it goes, with their reduced price and all.
Still shit tho.
14 Aug 2016, 14:58 PM
#15
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Tulips should probably not stun tanks (maybe disable their guns). Tulips should also probably not affect infantry with their debuff. Conversely, tulips should do more damage to static artillery pieces, like they used to.
All alpha-strike vehicles perform damn good when you get 2+ of them. Evem when the reload time of the firefly was what it was, a pair of FFs could hold off pretty much anything:
It takes about 4 shots to kill a panther. With one FF and 10 secs reload time, this would take 30 secs.
With 2 fireflies that would take 10 secs (since you dont need to reload before your first shot).
With veterancy taken into account the Firefly has the highest alpha strike of all vehicles in the game.
This is the same principle for all tanks with high alpha strike, and why panther spam scales so gracefully.
All alpha-strike vehicles perform damn good when you get 2+ of them. Evem when the reload time of the firefly was what it was, a pair of FFs could hold off pretty much anything:
It takes about 4 shots to kill a panther. With one FF and 10 secs reload time, this would take 30 secs.
With 2 fireflies that would take 10 secs (since you dont need to reload before your first shot).
With veterancy taken into account the Firefly has the highest alpha strike of all vehicles in the game.
This is the same principle for all tanks with high alpha strike, and why panther spam scales so gracefully.
You have a great idea that improves the QoL aspects of the game? Please, drop your idea here:
https://www.coh2.org/topic/57860/some-qol-suggestions
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https://www.coh2.org/topic/57860/some-qol-suggestions
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15 Aug 2016, 01:34 AM
#16
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So a turretless tank destroyer stunning with twp was deemed op, but a turreted one with much higher dps having it is fine.
part of it is the price. the stug is relatively cheap while the FF is the most expensive TD in the game beside the axis super heavies. (panther have machine gun)
Even with the recent buff, the unit is still carried by its tulip rocket. It's not a cost efficient unit unless you have the munition to spare (ie, 2v2+).
15 Aug 2016, 02:50 AM
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part of it is the price. the stug is relatively cheap while the FF is the most expensive TD in the game beside the axis super heavies. (panther have machine gun)
Even with the recent buff, the unit is still carried by its tulip rocket. It's not a cost efficient unit unless you have the munition to spare (ie, 2v2+).
I'd disagree...
Minimal tulip usage, pre-buff firefly so 10 second reload, combo with hammer for vehicle tracking (lasts 12 seconds so longer then the reload, and warspeed)
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15 Aug 2016, 06:28 AM
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I think the prize of the firefly is perfect atm. Its not tooo expensive, but its not cheap either so it cant be spammed.
15 Aug 2016, 08:32 AM
#19
Posts: 186
Bbb.bu. but.. Can it handle Panzergrenadiers? MVGame
Whatever
15 Aug 2016, 09:01 AM
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Bbb.bu. but.. Can it handle Panzergrenadiers? MVGame
It can crush MVGame
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Lady Xenarra: Does anyone else think that USF needs buffs? It feels like they’re on life support sometimes
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Willy Pete: @Rosbone Ahh I missed that memo. I still think its a bad decision though. Adds frustration for players and isnt gonna make them that much money
27 Mar 2025, 15:46 PM
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Rosbone: It is also good they left it free until after the free to play weekend. Points for that.
27 Mar 2025, 09:34 AM
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Rosbone: But I agree, the cost to get a full decent Coh game pushing $115 US is not the best idea. Especially when it needs so much more work for casuals.
27 Mar 2025, 09:32 AM
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Rosbone: To be fair, it was a thank you to early fans right? They said it was not free for long and it would become a pay DLC at some point.
27 Mar 2025, 09:30 AM
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Willy Pete: Re-releasing free DLC so they can charge new players money for it. Brilliant marketing strategy 
27 Mar 2025, 04:31 AM
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Rosbone: Congrats to Relic. Looks like Coh3 has finally usurped Coh2 s the popular Coh. You smell terrific. 
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24 Mar 2025, 02:46 AM
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Nickbn: and again someone else replies. I mean come on guys. Give @adamírcz a chance
22 Mar 2025, 14:00 PM
22 Mar 2025, 14:00 PM
Nickbn: @Rosbone it's incredibly rude to speak on someone elses behalf, especially when a question is directly adressed to them. I understand your passion for the subject at hand but I want to hear from him.
20 Mar 2025, 10:16 AM
20 Mar 2025, 10:16 AM
Rosbone: @Nickbn No, I am just saying people should not be using any Relic owned forum since they have proven they ban anyone who says true things about Coh3.
18 Mar 2025, 19:01 PM
18 Mar 2025, 19:01 PM
Nickbn: @Rosbone do you speak on his behalf? I didn't know. In that case keep us updated please.
18 Mar 2025, 16:47 PM
18 Mar 2025, 16:47 PM
Rosbone: @Nickbn True except, the only people on the Relic Discord/Reddit/Steam are brain washed monkey zealots. They wont even understand what @adamírcz is talking about. Anyone else is banned.
16 Mar 2025, 17:54 PM
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Nickbn: @adamírcz might be a better idea to voice this to relic directly than to voice it here, in a shoutbox of a nearly deade fansite #justsaying...
16 Mar 2025, 16:36 PM
16 Mar 2025, 16:36 PM
adamírcz: So, I just got a leaver penalty without even getting onto the loading screen because of the game disconnecting, bravo Relic
14 Mar 2025, 10:45 AM
14 Mar 2025, 10:45 AM
Rosbone: It is an indicator of the very short sighted capitalist view that plagues any company where leadership does not understand the product.
13 Mar 2025, 20:00 PM
13 Mar 2025, 20:00 PM
Rosbone: They dont care about Coh3 or Coh in general. They are just trying to grab cash by ripping off the small user base they have.
13 Mar 2025, 19:58 PM
13 Mar 2025, 19:58 PM
Rosbone: It is clear they crapped out an unfinished game. And are now barely supporting it as they make new smaller games. Coh3 is stillborn. It will be meh for at least another 2-4 years. Meaning they killed the whole franchise instead of growing it.
13 Mar 2025, 19:56 PM
13 Mar 2025, 19:56 PM
Rosbone: If I did play coh3 and was mainly a skirmish player, I would be pissed and probably stop playing. And it has been like this since release. Why? I would not tell my friends to buy a game I am not even playing. Lost sales and angered users.
13 Mar 2025, 19:53 PM
13 Mar 2025, 19:53 PM
Rosbone: I am just saddened how Relic keeps hurting themselves by not fixing 5 minute things like menus. Why anger users with stuff that could be fixed in minutes???
13 Mar 2025, 19:50 PM
13 Mar 2025, 19:50 PM
Rosbone: I was wondering why people think I was raging. I think it was when I said "because coh3 sucks so bad". That was not my opinion. Just a general feel from top players/streamers. I dont play Coh3 and have NO opinion of it.
13 Mar 2025, 19:48 PM
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OKSpitfire: You can rage as often as you like btw, you usually manage to make it pretty funny.
12 Mar 2025, 11:18 AM
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Rosbone: So it was a systemic failure across multiple disciplines and check points.
12 Mar 2025, 04:30 AM
12 Mar 2025, 04:30 AM
Rosbone: Knowing how companies work, I imagine a new hire making the menus. The API they are using is complicated and things were hard to figure out. But at some point QA or management should have addressed these things. Usually within 6 months of starting.
12 Mar 2025, 04:29 AM
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Rosbone: @theekvn I dont hate Coh3 or Relic. I just dont understand how you work on Coh3 for like 7 years and the menu system is worse than if a Programming 101 student made it. Feel free to explain it to me.
12 Mar 2025, 04:07 AM
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theekvn: KT just need fuel debuf from 15% to 50%, Ele arc of fire- aim time improve and they are good to go
12 Mar 2025, 03:59 AM
12 Mar 2025, 03:59 AM
theekvn: and please Rosbone,I know you hate Coh3 to the bone due to your drama with relic, Still, Can you give a proper point of view instead of raging ?.
12 Mar 2025, 03:54 AM
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KoRneY: @aerafield It's possible that it is underpriced for what it is capable of now, no need to go full retard and take it immediately as a massive problem. It costs 60 more MP than a pz.3 and in 2v2 the barrage can be quite strong.
07 Mar 2025, 19:14 PM
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OKSpitfire: I do like that they made the Stuka more expensive instead of nerfing it into the ground though. Found it pretty unsatisfying to use before that buff a while back....
06 Mar 2025, 16:35 PM
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aerafield: USF already is by far the shittiest faction in terms of countering blobbing and turtling, now they supposedly have one overtuned tool locked behind a BG and it's immediately a massive problem?
06 Mar 2025, 13:33 PM
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Lady Xenarra: I think post-2.0 Whizbang buffs, the price is too low esp since the Stuka got nerfed in cost too. Speaking of which, how exactly is one supposed to successfully dive this Sherman in disguise? Med tank spam running into SSFs?
06 Mar 2025, 12:13 PM
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OKSpitfire: A powerful, doctrinal unit that outperforms stock stuff? Colour me shocked! 
06 Mar 2025, 10:49 AM
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Lady Xenarra: WTB Whizzbang for DAK instead of Stuka, 5 fuel cheape, 60MP more expensive and next to impossible to dive. 
05 Mar 2025, 20:27 PM
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Rosbone: It is also hard to expect Relic to help Coh2 when they cant even make working menus in Coh3 yet, 2 years after release and at full price+ for DLCs. Thats like asking a fish to do calculus.
04 Mar 2025, 02:58 AM
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Rosbone: But this last patch has made good progress for grabbing players. All we can hope is Coh3 gets to Coh2s quality level before everyone abandons the franchise. Its Relic so they will completely f*%k it up as usual. But its a hope/cope.
04 Mar 2025, 02:55 AM
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Rosbone: Relic wants Coh2 to fail so players will migrate to Coh3. It is hard to blame them since Coh3 sucks so bad. It needs all the help it can get.
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