Mortar pit veterancy

Jump back to quoted post16 Jul 2016, 22:54 PMwouren

As the mortar pit is only good on certain maps and stuff.

Jump back to quoted post16 Jul 2016, 22:19 PMSuperhet

2.It outranges other mortars (only by 9 if you compare barrages)

Jump back to quoted post16 Jul 2016, 23:55 PMelchino7

You are probably looking at stats.coh2 which list the barrage with veterancy applied on them.

Mortar pits AA is set to 115 while normal mortars are on 80. The barrage indeed gets to 106 but only if it's vet3.

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Jump back to quoted post16 Jul 2016, 23:39 PMSuperhet

It's bad on every map. It has the same weaknesses, but each map style accentuates some of them.

A linear map like Road to Kharkov means scouting its construction and anticipating its placement will be easier, while indirect fire can be concentrated without inconvenience alone or with a forward HQ/reinforce halftrack to destroy it. A wide map like Moscow Outskirts means it can't keep up support of your forces properly and will be vulnerable to a direct attack if you don't blob around it thus tying your units down. A balanced map merely makes both apply equally rather than accentuating one.

The mortar pit is something you build not because you want to but because you have no other choice. And the advanced emplacement doctrine probably makes people assume it's better than it actually is.

Jump back to quoted post17 Jul 2016, 01:19 AMSuperhet

All right. Point being though that the increased range of the mortar pit is a necessity and not a bonus, as other mortars can simply move to adjust their range.

Jump back to quoted post16 Jul 2016, 23:55 PMelchino7

You are probably looking at stats.coh2 which list the barrage with veterancy applied on them.

Mortar pits AA is set to 115 while normal mortars are on 80. The barrage indeed gets to 106 but only if it's vet3.

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Jump back to quoted post17 Jul 2016, 04:30 AMFiresparks

actually, it used to be 115 for both barrage and auto. The autofire range got nerfed with the previous patch

Jump back to quoted post17 Jul 2016, 13:29 PMDonnieChan

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on vet 3 to make the game more enjoyable for everyone involved

Jump back to quoted post17 Jul 2016, 16:54 PMTheSleep3r

u sure like spamming useless whines over this mortar dont u

Jump back to quoted post17 Jul 2016, 16:40 PMelchino7

??

Are you looking at the 10lb or the light version ? Also, i haven't seen anything on the changelog stating that (which wouldn't be strange if it was a ninja).

Jump back to quoted post17 Jul 2016, 19:23 PMMr.Smith

mortar pit barrage is actually worse than auto-fire

Jump back to quoted post17 Jul 2016, 23:34 PMSuperhet

Certain about that?

Jump back to quoted post17 Jul 2016, 23:40 PMMr.Smith

Besides, emplacements are all about playing your game micro-free. Why would you ever waste the time manually-aiming your barrages, when the mortar pit already does that for you for free?