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Repair Speed Tweaks

1 Jun 2016, 14:31 PM
#62
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A vet2 280 manpower Sturmpio squad with a 30 ammo investment has 2.5x the repair speed of a 200mp Pioneer squad.

Yes, I stacked the numbers a bit to illustrate the bias. But imagine if there existed an OKW unit that had 2.5x the DPS of its Wehrmacht counterpart?

We do not tolerate such huge fluctuations in DPS or hit points or penetration in game in units of comparable tiering and roles. Nor should we, it would be insane. It would be like vet2 Grenadiers with a 30 ammo LMG inflicting triple the DPS of other core rifle infantry at medium range.

Then why do we tolerate it with repair speeds?


I believe Spios are 300 not 280 :)
1 Jun 2016, 15:48 PM
#64
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Are you mental? Why would anyone vote for increasing repairs speed instad of lowering?

If I manage to almost kill KT, JT or Churchill it muast take big amount of time to fix it.

Currently if you almost kill on the these, they are back to fight 30secs later.

Taking 90% or more of the tank health should reward the player for a long absence and punish second player with long repair time.



+1
1 Jun 2016, 16:11 PM
#66
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Well, at least they also need to pick a doctrine to bring real heavy armor to the field.... oh... :sibPheasant:


Well, at least they lack indoctrinal elite infantry, mg, heavy armor, field defences and forvard retreat point .... oh ....
1 Jun 2016, 16:29 PM
#67
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some minor major cleanup was had, janitor was not happy >:(

-Resident Janitor

/back on topic! (its about repair speed tweaks incase you have forgotten) :thumb:
1 Jun 2016, 16:52 PM
#68
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On topic I'm for a buff to base repair speed of ost and Soviet they have the only real engieneer unit with no combat potential (sturm are strong , RearE can equip bar and zook , Re can be 5 man and are really cost effective + weapon)
1 Jun 2016, 17:51 PM
#69
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Ok, let's buff SU and OST repairs.

I say even more!

Let's remove healing! Once reinforced, you will get insta 100% HP.
If squad still has all models it will gain 100% HP nce reatrat to base!

Why would we waste time for healing? Insta healing right now!
1 Jun 2016, 18:50 PM
#70
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The reason why repair speed of wfa should be lowered and not efa increased is to nerf heavy armour play a little bit. Armour doesn't bleed, infantry does.

If you can repair heavy armour(or any armour for that matter) quickly, then your advantage over an anti-tank based build is bigger than infantry-heavy army vs. anti-inf based build.
1 Jun 2016, 19:17 PM
#71
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Ok, let's buff SU and OST repairs.

I say even more!

Let's remove healing! Once reinforced, you will get insta 100% HP.
If squad still has all models it will gain 100% HP nce reatrat to base!

Why would we waste time for healing? Insta healing right now!
ok make the base (only base) repair speed of everything (from vehicle squad to sturm) lower not too much but lower than su and ost but no sweeper to su and ost (while keeping the scaling as now : sturm > vehicle crew)
2 Jun 2016, 01:05 AM
#72
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I believe Spios are 300 not 280 :)
I shall promptly commit sudoku.
2 Jun 2016, 01:11 AM
#73
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I shall promptly commit sudoku.


Death by puzzles ... your honor knows no bounds.
2 Jun 2016, 01:24 AM
#74
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Death by puzzles ... your honor knows no bounds.

And I thought self-disembowelment was ugly
2 Jun 2016, 02:25 AM
#75
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jump backJump back to quoted post1 Jun 2016, 16:29 PMWiFiDi
some minor major cleanup was had, janitor was not happy >:(
-Resident Janitor

You must have seen some fkd up shit over the years, havent you?

ok make the base (only base) repair speed of everything (from vehicle squad to sturm) lower not too much but lower than su and ost but no sweeper to su and ost (while keeping the scaling as now : sturm > vehicle crew)

No.
Engineers had multi roles IRL, and they should reflect that in game.


Death by puzzles ... your honor knows no bounds.

Lul
nee
2 Jun 2016, 21:11 PM
#76
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I would like SU and Ostheer to have buffed repair speed, but I kind of think it should be done a little more imaginatively than just copying OKW's minesweeper upgrade, plus give some asymmetry since Soviets have many doctrinal options to bolster repair, whereas Ostheer has zero. One example being removing some of the lamer common commander abilities that we'd never use and replace it with another ability. At least that way you don't get people constantly bitching about repairing Tigers to full speed...well at least less likely since some will inevitably ignore or forget that tidbit.
General rule for Ostheer therefore would be something like "Cannot be part of commanders featuring Tiger".
For example, combining Defensive Doctrine's tank traps and trenches into one, and giving a buffed repair speed ability would be fine, since that commander features ZERO unit call-ins, not even Relief Infantry. That would be totally fine, it would make the commander far less dependent on the map being played.

But then again the odds of Relic doing any of the above is even less likely than buffing repair speed at all.
2 Jun 2016, 21:57 PM
#77
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jump backJump back to quoted post2 Jun 2016, 01:24 AMVuther

And I thought self-disembowelment was ugly


You should commit crosswords. Then it would be self-disenvowelment
2 Jun 2016, 21:58 PM
#78
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I shall promptly commit sudoku.



Don't worry, a lot of people still think they are 320 MP
2 Jun 2016, 23:22 PM
#79
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I shall promptly commit sudoku.
2 Jun 2016, 23:34 PM
#80
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jump backJump back to quoted post2 Jun 2016, 21:57 PMwouren


You should commit crosswords. Then it would be self-disenvowelment

:rofl:
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