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Stugs are not proving effective enough vs SU85s, imo.
Conscripts are not proving effecting enough vs Ostwinds.
FIX IT RELIC!@!~!!!!
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Well considering how slowly conscripts kill other infantry i see his point but do not condone the saracasm
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Whats the SU85 scatter value?
"angle_scatter": 7.5,
"distance_scatter_max": 10,
"angle_scatter": 7.5,
"distance_scatter_max": 6.5,
"angle_scatter": 7.5,
"distance_scatter_max": 10,
"angle_scatter": 5,
"distance_scatter_max": 7.5,
"angle_scatter": 5.5,
"distance_scatter_max": 10,
"angle_scatter": 7.5,
"distance_scatter_max": 10,
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Played 2v2 on Pripyat winter yesterday, we held both fuelpoints and 2 VPs a decent amount of time and had a total of like 5 P4 early. They still managed to fuck us with like 2 Su85. Ridiculous match. I even placed a Pak43, but of course it was instantly destroyed by airstrike (didn't place it well anyway, did't get a good shot).
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In the original COH there was a unit that outranged all the tanks and was still balanced. It was the PE´s Marder III. You know why it was balanced? To outrange other tanks it had to deploy. Thus it could actually be flanked. Maybe this is a solution for the Su-85. It could get it´s sight and range increase only when deployed.
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In the original COH there was a unit that outranged all the tanks and was still balanced. It was the PE´s Marder III. You know why it was balanced? To outrange other tanks it had to deploy. Thus it could actually be flanked. Maybe this is a solution for the Su-85. It could get it´s sight and range increase only when deployed.
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Yeah it was sluggish (awful turning) and fragile, but fast. I think the SU85 should be similar in feel.
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The main problem with the SU-85 is the skill it takes to use and support. Because the SU-85 can engage german tanks without risking return fire, supporting the SU-85 vs german armor simply requires having a conscript squad nearby with an AT grenade or guards with button, since german tanks HAVE to close with the SU-85. The real problem is the Axis' lack of a non-doctrinal, mobile unit that can fire back at the SU at its maximum range.
The answer here should be the StuG, but it's not. I think if the PanzerWerfer were moved down to Tier 3 and the StuG moved up to Tier 4 and given a range buff so that it can engage the SU at its maximum range, you'd see more mixed armor tactics from the soviets and less SU85 spam.
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The main problem with the SU-85 is the skill it takes to use and support. Because the SU-85 can engage german tanks without risking return fire, supporting the SU-85 vs german armor simply requires having a conscript squad nearby with an AT grenade or guards with button, since german tanks HAVE to close with the SU-85. The real problem is the Axis' lack of a non-doctrinal, mobile unit that can fire back at the SU at its maximum range.
The answer here should be the StuG, but it's not. I think if the PanzerWerfer were moved down to Tier 3 and the StuG moved up to Tier 4 and given a range buff so that it can engage the SU at its maximum range, you'd see more mixed armor tactics from the soviets and less SU85 spam.
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