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Balance Preview Mod

A quick shoutout to "miragefla" for his contribution to these potential balance changes.
DISCLAIMER

Due to the nature of some of the changes outlined below, this balance mod is scheduled to run over multiple weeks in order to extensively test, validate and gather sufficient feedback before any final decisions are made. Therefore, it is important to note that a number of these changes (especially those listed under Experimental) will require extensive validation before being considered candidates for live game integration.

BALANCE GOALS
Increase Strategic Diversity

In order to add to CoH2âs current strategic diversity, the changes outlined below are designed to Increase the depth within factions by improving unit viability, creating diverse options for build orders and bringing factions in line with one another. This will create more diverse and viable strategies for players at a variety of different skill levels.
Match Gameplay Expectations to Outcomes (Quality of Life)

There currently are a variety of gameplay outcomes that do match player expectations which is creating a degree of frustration within the player base. A number of the changes outlined below attempt to address this by matching these outcomes to acceptable expectations such as through the removal of âbadâ RNG and balancing specific units/abilities' cost vs reward that are currently out of tune.
Test Community-Driven (Experimental) Feedback

There are numerous changes below that fit into the category of âExperimentalâ. These changes are fueled by long-time community feedback and requests that more or less would involve dramatic changes to gameplay if implemented. These changes are the least likely to be implemented but rather this mod is meant to be used as a test bed in order to determine if they are viable for the game and if so how well they perform.

GENERAL
Heavy armored Tanks
Strategic Diversity
Developer Comments: We felt the risk associated with flanking a Heavy Armored Vehicle was much too great because of the high rear armor. To help balance this risk vs reward we are reducing rear armor on all heavy armor across the board.

â¢ Soviet IS-2 rear armour reduced from 205 to 160
â¢ Wehrmacht Tiger & Tiger Ace rear armoured reduced from 180 to 140
â¢ Wehrmacht Elefant rear armor reduced from 150 to 110
â¢ OKW Jagdtiger rear armor reduced from 150 to 110
â¢ OKW King Tiger rear armor reduced from 225 to 150

Mines (General-Purpose and Tellers)
Quality of Life
Developer Comments: We often saw mines wipe full health squads when planted in front of building entry points or cripple enemy vehicles. We felt mines were too cost efficient for what they do so we are reducing the damage of some General Purpose mines against infantry so they no longer one shot wipe full health squads as well as removing engine destroy critical from Teller Mines. These changes will bring the reward of an enemy unit hitting a mine in line with the cost of placing it.

â¢ Engine Destroy Critical removed from Teller Mines
â¢ Deals 35% of normal damage against infantry for 70 damage leaving full health models at 10 health. (General-Purpose)
â¢ Deals suppression on squads hit by mines. (General-Purpose)

Suppression
Quality of Life
Developer Comments: We felt it was too easy to charge into suppressive fire and simply throw a grenade to knock out a HMG team. This was not an intended counter and thus suppression will now reduce the range of grenade abilities.

â¢ All grenade abilities that are not snares have their range reduced by 33% when the unit is suppressed.

Anti-Tank Guns (Piats, Bazookas, and Panzerschrecks)
Quality of Life
Developer Comments: To alleviate the effects of some frustrating RNG from anti tank weapons firing on infantry squads, we have decided to reduce the damage these weapons deal to infantry to prevent snipes on full health models.

â¢ Damage set to deal only 25% against infantry.

Snipers
Quality of Life
Developer Comments: We felt Snipers even when caught out of position felt too durable. We also wanted to standardized all sniper rifles to use the maximum amount of time for aim-time and cooldown. These weapons will no longer fire faster the closer the squad approaches them.

â¢ Target size from 1 to 1.15.
â¢ Cooldown, and all aim-time always use the max amount of time and have been standardized for all distances meaning snipers do not fire more quickly the closer the target is.

Deflection Stun Criticals
Quality of Life
Developer Comments: Some heavy armored vehicles had an extremely rare critical that could stun enemy vehicles on deflection. We feel this is frustrating RNG and should be removed from the game.

â¢ Deflection criticals from Heavy Armor removed

Core Infantry/Small Team Weapon Spawn Points
Experimental
Developer Comments: We felt by allowing smaller team weapons and core infantry to spawn from corresponding base buildings, it could slightly speed up initial engagements, and allow for more meaningful base placements for Soviets, Wehrmacht, and OKW factions.

â¢ All Core Infantry Squads and Core Small Weapon Teams now spawn from its corresponding building rather than from Off-Map.

SOVIETS
T-34/76
Strategic Diversity
Developer Comments: We felt the T-34/76 was under performing and needed some improvements to help deal with infantry.

â¢ Hull Machine gun burst duration changed from 2/1 to 2/2.
â¢ Hull Machine gun accuracy increased from 0.3/0.35/0.4 to 0.4/0.45/0.5
â¢ Coaxial Machine gun burst duration changed from 3/2 to 3/3.
â¢ Coaxial Machine gun accuracy increased from 0.28/0.33/0.38 to 0.38/0.43/0.48
â¢ Coaxial Machine gun damage increased from 4 to 8
â¢ Main gun reload from 6.2/6.8 to 6.1.
â¢ Manpower cost from 300 to 280.

SU-85
Strategic Diversity
Developer Comments: We saw that the Soviets had to rely on Doctrines or would have a difficult time dealing with heavy armored vehicles. We wanted slightly improve the SU-85 to be stronger against heavy armored vehicles while being slightly weaker against flanking vehicles.

â¢ Accuracy from 0.05/0.0375/0.25 to 0.055/0.045/0.04
â¢ Penetration from 200/190/180 to 240/230/220
â¢ Reload increased from 3.8/4.2 to 5.4.
â¢ Target size reduced from 22 to 18
â¢ Rotation rate from 20 to 22
â¢ Cost increases from 340 manpower and 120 fuel to 350 manpower and 130 fuel.
â¢ Veterancy two -30% reload modifier replaced with +30% weapon penetration modifier.

IS-2
Strategic Diversity
Developer Comments: Modified to put it in line with other vehicles and slight boost to its penetration to help it better engage heavier armour.

â¢ Scatter offset adjusted to match other vehicles.
â¢ Penetration increased from 250/220/190 to 250/230/210

Trip-Wire Flare Mine
Quality of Life
Developer Comments: Adjusted the mine to prevent one-hit kills at full health. Mainly done to prevent squad wipes of units leaving buildings. Plant time was lowered and the mine now deals damage to compensate.

â¢ Damage from 0 to 20.
â¢ Is now a Small Explosive Weapon type
â¢ No longer guarantees a casualty
â¢ Plant time from 9.5 to 7.5

Soviet Sniper
Quality of Life
Developer Comments: The Soviet Sniper had the lowest health amongst all the Snipers. Because we are increasing the unit size of all Snipers, we have made adjustment to the health the Soviet Sniper to compensate.

â¢ Health increased from 48 to 64

RPG 43 AT Grenade
Quality of Life
Developer Comments: This ability's current wind up time made it feel unresponsive, thus we have reduced it's wind up time alleviate this issue.

â¢ Wind up reduced from 0.25 to 0.125

Penal Battalion
Experimental
Developer Comments: We are trying something a little more radical. Due to the lack of anti-tank in the Special Rifle Command, we want try giving Penal Battalions a more focused roll as a dedicated anti-infantry unit.

â¢ SVT accuracy to .7/.65/.45
â¢ SVT damage from 8 to 10.
â¢ Cooldowns and aim-times adjusted.
â¢ Squad cost increased to 300 manpower from 270 manpower.
â¢ Reinforce time from 4.5 to 5.4. Build time from 27 to 32 seconds.
â¢ Flamethrower Upgrade now adds 3 PPsh-41s to better mesh with the flamethrower.
â¢ Flamethrower cost from 60 to 90 and renamed Assault Package.
â¢ Reduced the drop-rate of the Flamethrower to 10% from 33% due to the PPsH-41s that are added to the squad which are considered slot items.
â¢ "Tripwire Flare" changed to "To The Last Man!" This ability is a passive that increases the power of the squad as they lose members. Modifiers are +4% accuracy, -2% weapon cooldown and -3% received accuracy per member lost.

USF
57mm ATG
Strategic Diversity
Developer Comments: In order to bring the 57mm AT Gun in line with other AT Guns from other factions in the same Tier, we have increased the base penetration to improve performance when not using AP rounds. Take Aim shifted to a timed ability to reflect its power. Accuracy changed to match other anti-tank guns.

â¢ Penetration from 140/125/115 to 150/140/130
â¢ Take Aim! now a timed ability. 20 seconds, 60 second recharge.
â¢ Accuracy changed from 0.05/0.0425/0.03 to 0.055/0.05/0.04

M2HB HMG Team
Strategic Diversity
Developer Comments: Increased penetration to make it a more viable soft counter to light vehicles as well as more distinct from other HMGs due to its later timing. We also wanted to give the lieutenant tier a deterrent against light vehicles without needing to invest in bazookas. Bonus penetration against specific vehicles to ensure the .50cal can harm these vehicles, but not burst down other light vehicles immediately.

â¢ M2HB .50cal HMG penetration from 3/2/1 to 7/6/5.
â¢ New Ability: Armored Piercing Rounds - Timed ability that loads AP rounds for 25% increased damage and +10 pentration.

M36 Jackson
Strategic Diversity
Developer Comments: Increased LOS to allow the M36 to better kite, locate and hunt enemy armor without boosting its firepower any further.

â¢ LOS from 35 to 45.

M8 Motor Carriage
Strategic Diversity
Developer Comments: We felt the M8 HMC was under-performing and needed a slight stat boost to improve survivability and effectiveness. The AOE drop-off for the mid-far range was lessened to improve the M8's damage output against troop targets when its shells do not land directly as the damage drop-off was incredibly harsh given that the mid-range of the shells are set to 2 meters.

â¢ AOE mid modifer from 0.15 to 0.25
â¢ AOE far modifier from 0.05 to 0.10
â¢ Build-time from 80 seconds to 50 seconds.
â¢ Health from 320 to 400.

Major
Strategic Diversity
Developer Comments: We have significantly boosted the artillery ability in power and lowered cost to give USF some form of non-doctrinal artillery to help break concentrations of enemy units and structures. Recharge time increased to compensate and match other artillery units.

â¢ Artillery delay reduced from 7 seconds to 5.5
â¢ Shells increased from 3 to 6.
â¢ Time delay between shells set to 2 for maximum and minimum.
â¢ Veterancy 2 Artillery delay reduced from 7 seconds to 5
â¢ Veterancy 2 Shells increased from 5 to 9
â¢ Veterancy 2 time delay between shells set to 1.75 for maximum and minimum.
â¢ Artillery cost reduced to 60 munitions from 120 munitions.
â¢ Recharge time from 60 seconds to 90.
â¢ Range reduced from 85 to 60.

Captain
Experimental
Developer Comments: The Captain squad gave USF a very easy access to light Anti-Tank and made the Captain the most valuable officer in the game. We want to try removing the Bazookas on the Captain squad to allow for light vehicle play to be more effective.
On Me! no longer provides suppression resistance to prevent negation of MGs or suppression based platforms, but will break suppression making it ideal for getting units out of suppression or beaking pin status.

â¢ Captain no longer comes with free Bazookas. Must either grab them from the weapon rack
â¢ On Me! No longer provides suppression immunity for its duration, but will still break suppression.

60mm Mortar
Experimental
Developer Comments: We wanted to give USF more means to counter garrisons without grenades and a mobile smoke platform as well as diversify their opening.

â¢ Added M1 60mm Mortar to USF Starting Building

WEHRMACHT
251 Flame Half-Track
Strategic Diversity
Developer Comments: We made some slight adjustments to the Flamethrower aim times to allow for the vehicle to be better at kiting, reduced the cost to make it more affordable and in line with its performance. We have also reduced the garrison damage to avoid the vehicle instantly wiping garrisoned squads.

â¢ Upgrade cost reduced from 120 to 90
â¢ Ready aim time from 1.5 to 1
â¢ Flamethrower damage versus garrison from 1.25 to 1.
â¢ Veterancy 3 cooldown bonuses now benefits the Flamethrowers.

Support Armour Korp
Strategic Diversity
Developer Comments: We felt the Support Armour Korp was slightly too expensive in comparison to other faction Tier 3 and needed a slight reduction in terms of cost to make the tier more affordable.

â¢ Price from 260 manpower and 75 fuel to 240 manpower and 60 fuel.

Brummbar
Strategic Diversity
Developer Comments: Due to its clunky movement, the Brummbar would often get blocked against world objects. We decided to give this vehicle Heavy Crush to improve pathfinding and make it more maneuverable. Reload time standardized to make it more consistent and AOE has been adjusted to improve consistency as the damage quickly drops off by 2 meters. To adjust for these changes. resource costs have been updated to bring it in line with its current performance.

â¢ Cost decreased from 470 manpower and 160 fuel to 420 manpower and 150 fuel
â¢ Reload standardized from 7.5/9 seconds to 8.25.
â¢ AOE mid modifer from 0.15 to 0.3
â¢ Medium crush changed to Heavy Crush.
â¢ Veterancy requirements from 2740/5480/10960 to 2040/4080/8160

Heavy Panzer Korp
Strategic Diversity
Developer Comments: We felt the Heavy Panzer Korp was slightly too expensive given the price of the high cost units it currently houses.

â¢ Cost reduced from 260 manpower and 75 fuel to 200 manpower and 50 fuel.

Panzer IV Command Tank
Quality of Life
Developer Comments: The Panzer IV Command Tank was much too durable because it benefitted from its own aura. To make it more vulnerable, the tank will no longer receive a defense buff from its aura.

â¢ No longer receives benefits from its own aura.

Pioneers
Experimental
Developer Comments: Even though the Wehrmacht can build a trench, this is not as flexible as other forms of heavy cover such as sandbags. To increase the faction's heavy cover options, Pioneers have now been given the ability to build sandbags.

â¢ Can now construct sandbags.

OKW
Battlegroup Headquarters
Strategic Diversity || Experimental
Developer Comments: This change was driven from a popular idea that was expressed by the community. Battlegroup HQ no longer comes with Medics but must upgrade to get them. Due to OKW now having full resource income and to bring this ability in line with other factions, this upgrade costs a small amount of fuel.

â¢ Medics must now be purchased as an upgrade. 100 manpower 15 Fuel.

Mechanized Headquarters
Strategic Diversity || Experimental
Developer Comments: This change was driven from a popular idea that was expressed by the community. Mechanized HQ no longer comes with Repair Pioneers but must upgrade to get them. Due to OKW now having full resource income and to bring this ability in line with other factions, this upgrade costs a small amount of fuel.

â¢ Repair Pioneers must now be purchased as an upgrade. 100 Manpower 15 Fuel.

Volksgrenadier
Strategic Diversity || Experimental
Developer Comments: This change was driven from a popular idea that was expressed by the community. In an attempt to break up the Volksgrenadier blobbing we are removing the Panzershrek upgrade. This has been replaced by a package that improves their AI at short-mid range whilst still maintaining some anti-tank to deal with armour that rushes behind ATGs or other units. While the upgrade is not that powerful to start off with, they do gain considerable power as the Volks gain veterancy which has many offensive boosts.

â¢ Panzershrek Package removed.
â¢ Added StG 44 Package. Grants the squad two StG 44s that improve short-mid range combat for 60 munitions.
â¢ Panzerfaust ability added which is unlocked after a truck is built. (Panzerfaust works just like the Grenadier Panzerfaust)

MG34 HMG Team
Strategic Diversity || Experimental
Developer Comments: This change was driven from a popular idea that was expressed by the community. Community has voiced their opinion that they feel the OKW needs a suppression platform to deal with enemy blobs but also to have additional options other than always blobbing more Volksgrenadiers. To address this we have raised the MG 34s accuracy to improve its damage output against targets at range and reduced its cooldown to improve damage output at engaging multiple targets. MG-34s are now standard in the OKW arsenal. The doctrinal call-in has been replaced by the more powerful MG42.

â¢ Mid accuracy from 0.41 to 0.5
â¢ Far accuracy from 0.14 to 0.28
â¢ Cooldown from 2.5/3 to 1.75/2.5
â¢ Available in the H.Q but requires a Battle Group H.Q or Mechanized H.Q.

MG 42 HMG Team
Strategic Diversity || Experimental
Developer Comments: Replaces the MG 34 in the Doctrine

â¢ MG 42 replaces the MG 34 dispatch

BRITISH FORCES
Starting Resources
Strategic Diversity
Developer Comments: The British early game can often be very difficult due to the high cost of their Infantry. We increased the starting manpower to match other factions and to somewhat compensate their early game for their high manpower cost per unit.

â¢ Starting manpower increased from 290 to 340

Universal Carrier
Strategic Diversity
Developer Comments: We felt the Universal Carrier wasn't a viable option and felt we needed to make some adjustments. We gave it self-repair on stock so it no longer requires an engineer to be repaired, made it more durable through an upgrade purchase, and made significant improvements to the Vickers K.

â¢ Cost increased from 210MP to 260 MP
â¢ Vickers K range from 35 to 40.
â¢ Cooldown from 1.5/2.0 to 1.25/1.5
â¢ Burst duration and rate of fire standardized to 1 at all ranges for Vickers K.
â¢ Health improved by 40 when upgraded with Vickers K or Flame Projector.
â¢ Has Self-Repair stock.

Counter Battery
Strategic Diversity || Quality of Life
Developer Comments: We felt the Counter Battery's cost vs reward was not well balanced and required tuning to bring it in line with other similar artillery options. We also want players to make decisive gameplay decisions where using this ability had virtually no risk associated with it.

â¢ Is now a timed ability. Lasts 45 seconds and recharge time is 90 seconds.
â¢ costs 30 munitions

Land Mattress
Strategic Diversity || Quality of Life
Developer Comments: Based off it's effectiveness, we felt this unit could be called in too early. To help bring it in line with other Doctrine artillery we have increased it's required CP.

â¢ Increase CP requirement from 5 to 8

Sexton
Strategic Diversity
Developer Comments: We feel the Sexton is one of the UKF's most under performing units. Therefore, to improve the Sexton's performance we have increased the unit's AOE damage, increased the number of shells it fires, and made it fire a little faster.

â¢ AOE distance damage changed from 1/0.15/0.05 to 1/0.25/0.1
â¢ Wind Down from 4.67 to 3.125
â¢ Number of shells for barrage increased from 5 to 8

Firefly
Strategic Diversity
Developer Comments: We felt the reload on the main gun was hurting the unit's performance and the Tulip Rocket ability's role was redundant with the tank's main gun. To compensate for this we have reduced the reload time on the main gun and changed the role of the Tulip Rocket to be a temporary snare.

â¢ Reload from 10 seconds to 8.
â¢ Tulip Rockets now deal 120 damage from 240.
â¢ Tulips now cause a blind critical on penetration and stuns the tank for 2.5 seconds. (Vehicle LOS reduced to 0 for 8 seconds)
â¢ Tulip Rocket ability cost from 100 to 80.
â¢ Tulip Recharge time from 120 to 80.

Infantry Section (Both variants)
Quality of Life
Developer Comments: Due to the extremely short range of Artillery flares, a unit often put themselves at high risk when trying to use this ability. To bring its cost vs reward more in tune, we have added a slight increase to the range of this ability so it can be used slightly further away from the intended target. Infantry Sections also accrued Veterancy faster than any other core infantry unit so we have slightly increased the Veterancy requirements for these units.

â¢ Artillery flare range increased from 20 to 35
â¢ Veterancy requirements from 480/960/1920 to 560/1120/2240.

Tank Hunter Infantry Section
Quality of Life
Developer Comments: The damage from the HEAT Grenade was under performing and we wanted to bring it in line with all other infantry anti-tank abilities.

â¢ Heat Grenade damage from 50 to 100.

Sniper
Quality of Life
Developer Comments: Due to the short range of Artillery flares, a unit often put themselves at high risk when trying to use this ability. To bring its cost vs reward more in tune, we have added a slight increase to the range of this ability so it can be used slightly further away from the intended target.

â¢ Artillery flare range increased from 30 to 45.

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Too bad they didn't add the latest changes miragefla added to his mod.

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28 Apr 2016, 19:43 PMG4bb4_G4nd4lf

Too bad they didn't add the latest changes miragefla added to his mod.

Due to the nature of some of the changes outlined below, this balance mod is scheduled to run over multiple weeks in order to extensively test, validate and gather sufficient feedback before any final decisions are made. Therefore, it is important to note that a number of these changes (especially those listed under Experimental) will require extensive validation before being considered candidates for live game integration.

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Those notes were released long time ago. Including repost on this forum. Why is this topic here?

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28 Apr 2016, 19:47 PMnigo

Soooo... they didn't add his latest changes. Why u copy dat text?

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28 Apr 2016, 19:49 PMaaa

usfThose notes were released long time ago. Including repost on this forum. Why is this topic here?

This is the first time I've seen the developer commentary attached to them, personally.

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I don't know what are the newest Miragefla's changes but I sure do hope every underperforming unit like M-42, Greyhound, Valentine, Brit howies or KV-1 will be looked at. The infinite metas of fully balanced game

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I lost the twich:
When Roadmap and WarSpoils beta?

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28 Apr 2016, 19:49 PMG4bb4_G4nd4lf

Soooo... they didn't add his latest changes. Why u copy dat text?

They have time to add more changes to the mod.

Test Community-Driven (Experimental) Feedback

There are numerous changes below that fit into the category of “Experimental”. These changes are fueled by long-time community feedback and requests that more or less would involve dramatic changes to gameplay if implemented. These changes are the least likely to be implemented but rather this mod is meant to be used as a test bed in order to determine if they are viable for the game and if so how well they perform.

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No changes for vet1 soviet tanks ? Relic pls cap the points with is-2

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overall, not bad.

Still would like to see something done about the BOFORS hard-countering its hard-counter (barrage vs. AT gun). Would also like to see a fix to OKW's FLAK (just make its crew invulnerable) so it's not the most pointless unit in the game.

Also, in general, the game really needs to get away from "blob to win" being so viable. Something like CoH1 Pio's "negative zeal", but instead just increases suppression taken, applied to all infantry.

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28 Apr 2016, 20:10 PMDoomlord52

Something like CoH1 Pio's "negative zeal", but instead just increases suppression taken, applied to all infantry.

That's already implemented. The more models stick together the more suppression they take.

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28 Apr 2016, 20:24 PMG4bb4_G4nd4lf

That's already implemented. The more models stick together the more suppression they take.

Huh. Doesn't seem to work too well, then. You can still run a rifle blob into an MG42 and do a ton of damage and/or get past it (even without smoke). This is especially bad with vet 3 rifles (or really vet 3 anything).

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28 Apr 2016, 19:35 PMcapiqua

SOVIETS

SU-85
Strategic Diversity
Developer Comments: We saw that the Soviets had to rely on Doctrines or would have a difficult time dealing with heavy armored vehicles. We wanted slightly improve the SU-85 to be stronger against heavy armored vehicles while being slightly weaker against flanking vehicles.

• Accuracy from 0.05/0.0375/0.25 to 0.055/0.045/0.04
• Penetration from 200/190/180 to 240/230/220
• Reload increased from 3.8/4.2 to 5.4.
• Target size reduced from 22 to 18
• Rotation rate from 20 to 22
• Cost increases from 340 manpower and 120 fuel to 350 manpower and 130 fuel.
• Veterancy two -30% reload modifier replaced with +30% weapon penetration modifier.

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28 Apr 2016, 20:30 PMDoomlord52

Huh. Doesn't seem to work too well, then. You can still run a rifle blob into an MG42 and do a ton of damage and/or get past it (even without smoke). This is especially bad with vet 3 rifles (or really vet 3 anything).

You expect a 260mp unit to completely negate 280mp + 280mp + 280mp + upgrades + vet3 units?

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28 Apr 2016, 20:41 PMElSlayer

Yeah i noticed this too. Still I'm dissapointed that they doesn't take underperformed units like M-42 or KV-1 etc

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There are numerous changes below that fit into the category of “Experimental”. These changes are fueled by long-time community feedback and requests that more or less would involve dramatic changes to gameplay if implemented. These changes are the least likely to be implemented but rather this mod is meant to be used as a test bed in order to determine if they are viable for the game and if so how well they perform.

Don't like it. I hope Relic will be more confident and make this "dramatic changes" live. (Yes, i want to see SuperPenals and upgrades for OKW).
P.S. Pioneers can now construct sandbags. - Experimental (can broke game, too dramatic change

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At least they tried to give some sort of reasoning for this. "We felt"... How many times did it say that? 11 (12 if you count "We feel").

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28 Apr 2016, 20:51 PMKronosaur0s

You expect a 260mp unit to completely negate 280mp + 280mp + 280mp + upgrades + vet3 units?

If you have such a numerical advantage, why not flank? MGs are supposed to do exactly that: rek blobs.

Someone who is outnumbering an MG 3:1, yet is simply too lazy to position his troops properly needs to get rekt even by one MG.

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735
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+4
3.
Perun777
356
216
.622
+1
4.
makke
536
218
.711
+8
5.
★Osas
474
216
.687
+4
6.
Riiiiina
315
136
.698
+16
7.
Restzeit
474
417
.532
+7
8.
Fid McSauce
484
228
.680
+1
9.
DesTo
490
331
.597
-1
10.
BATTLEDANNY1
118
46
.720
+5

                    

                        1.
噗露露特official
354
170
.676
+1
2.
Misaki
331
102
.764
+4
3.
SoE-Sturmpanther
891
245
.784
+2
4.
BATTLEDANNY1
697
334
.676
+2
5.
Jax
585
254
.697
+7
6.
makke
939
429
.686
+1
7.
-SAS-JRT-青眼白龙
525
273
.658
+1
8.
同时出击吧！
342
138
.713
+1
9.
COCONUTCOFFEE
751
461
.620
+4
10.
Orcboyz
341
201
.629
+8

                    

                        1.
渣渣！反了他！欧布艹了你爸!气死偶嘞
2821
1018
.735
-1
2.
Barbarossa
1378
637
.684
+13
3.
vonLewinski
540
194
.736
+21
4.
Bober
924
374
.712
+5
5.
hoijimmy890.ttv
1360
445
.753
+14
6.
Basset
913
379
.707
-2
7.
铁证如山
629
378
.625
+3
8.
红色卫兵
132
27
.830
+8
9.
micmillan2
643
389
.623
+5
10.
TheMeowGamer
73
7
.913
+7

                    

                        1.
DIRTY_FINISHER
3025
1501
.668
-1
2.
TheMeowGamer
240
118
.670
-1
3.
Flap
472
270
.636
+2
4.
ttv  HSRometh
526
386
.577
+1
5.
Pioneer
177
101
.637
+5
6.
[SVO] ✠Kaiser✠ tushkan
323
172
.653
+1
7.
~SOK-St{o}cky~
977
531
.648
+2
8.
F[Lex]
444
332
.572
+2
9.
(KCC)TongTongBoy
103
35
.746
+2
10.
NIRVANAFROG
2727
2016
.575
-1

                    

                        1.
Thales
777
375
.674
+6
2.
Restzeit
944
511
.649
+13
3.
makke
478
242
.664
+5
4.
Peppa
164
55
.749
+3
5.
Tom
102
30
.773
+2
6.
White8===D
350
264
.570
+4
7.
Zsirbacsi
241
150
.616
+3
8.
[Dengue]™Alexandro
242
85
.740
+1
9.
ISTHISREALLIFE
159
101
.612
+4
10.
BATTLEDANNY1
99
34
.744
+1

                    

                        1.
黑色巨婴。
693
364
.656
-2
2.
Komuccap
339
130
.723
+2
3.
蓝色小丑
1485
942
.612
+5
4.
Misaki
315
170
.649
+1
5.
makke
936
700
.572
+3
6.
(MTRQ) ForsakenHunt  ( ^ _^)b
656
488
.573
-1
7.
奔跑的兔子CN
617
489
.558
+1
8.
Wagggggggh!哈哈
290
233
.554
+2
9.
BATTLEDANNY1
460
320
.590
+2
10.
PunkBusterr
71
47
.602
+1

                    

                        1.
Bober
1821
772
.702
+4
2.
hoijimmy890.ttv
1383
535
.721
+2
3.
渣渣！反了他！欧布艹了你爸!气死偶嘞
7362
2730
.729
+2
4.
输了变白毛蓝瞳美少女
575
283
.670
+7
5.
Krakenn
4011
892
.818
+1
6.
Asuka top soska>3
583
324
.643
+1
7.
vonLewinski
644
204
.759
+6
8.
红色卫兵
148
62
.705
+9
9.
Pioneer
251
130
.659
+4
10.
ker_141
454
219
.675
-1

                    

                        1.
Alastor
203
49
.806
+6
2.
✠ Kaiser Friedrich ✠
1612
1158
.582
+2
3.
DIRTY_FINISHER
1457
636
.696
+1
4.
[SVO] ✠Kaiser✠ tushkan
676
425
.614
+1
5.
|^ Saltman™
1835
1243
.596
+3
6.
Flap
526
285
.649
+3
7.
✠Kaiser✠ PERVITIN
376
206
.646
+1
8.
Hotzenplotz
1083
526
.673
+2
9.
-AL- Nimahfrosch
1040
562
.649
+3
10.
【Clannad】
291
99
.746
+23

                    

                        1.
Vertsu
470
171
.733
+3
2.
Oorah!
505
212
.704
+7
3.
★Osas
645
294
.687
+3
4.
Artyom
242
68
.781
-1
5.
Richmond
237
107
.689
-3
6.
Kilder
816
366
.690
+3
7.
Cow
235
86
.732
+1
8.
.OneTwo
1169
843
.581
+4
9.
Restzeit
576
402
.589
+1
10.
Perun777
577
334
.633
+3

                    

                        1.
Sanest Black Noir Fanatic
647
211
.754
+18
2.
噗露露特official
338
155
.686
+1
3.
你好骚啊，我好喜欢
397
171
.699
-1
4.
Shrimp
668
310
.683
+5
5.
cLownface
2220
1304
.630
+5
6.
XNXX
145
38
.792
+4
7.
昂撒猪猪拳
1681
818
.673
+1
8.
Trump is with Us
240
215
.527
-1
9.
同时出击吧！
732
300
.709
-4
10.
BATTLEDANNY1
967
474
.671
+5

                    

                        1.
渣渣！反了他！欧布艹了你爸!气死偶嘞
1065
402
.726
+5
2.
night_raven0203
3498
1728
.669
+7
3.
GiantDwarf
578
162
.781
+7
4.
Ultimatium
244
99
.711
+19
5.
vonLewinski
383
150
.719
+14
6.
SKELETRON
2007
686
.745
+11
7.
输了变白毛蓝瞳美少女
188
88
.681
+11
8.
Bober
692
282
.710
+1
9.
Pioneer
178
100
.640
-1
10.
micmillan2
445
241
.649
+7

                    

                        1.
DIRTY_FINISHER
2617
1437
.646
+1
2.
☞ ps3YES ☜
706
316
.691
+7
3.
Pioneer
179
92
.661
+3
4.
André2
283
128
.689
+6
5.
【Clannad】
168
60
.737
+3
6.
BatON
1135
769
.596
-1
7.
William H. Harrison
476
201
.703
-1
8.
(KCC)TongTongBoy
189
111
.630
+3
9.
shadics ARG.
393
175
.692
+2
10.
Yox
79
13
.859
+8

                    

                        1.
SFC. LEE ッ
3035
984
.755
+5
2.
Tom
91
16
.850
+14
3.
JOE
1137
692
.622
+2
4.
Oorah!
346
148
.700
+5
5.
Riiiiina
445
162
.733
+5
6.
Peppa
247
98
.716
-1
7.
125656923
260
185
.584
+1
8.
쿨게이
200
112
.641
-1
9.
Jew Bear
94
47
.667
+1
10.
PREDATOR54
855
651
.568
+3

                    

                        1.
noob
398
311
.561
+2
2.
godjaemin
314
229
.578
+3
3.
昂撒猪猪拳
978
808
.548
+9
4.
BATTLEDANNY1
479
331
.591
+2
5.
黑色巨婴。
463
299
.608
+2
6.
Jax
155
65
.705
+2
7.
玛丽猫猫
834
718
.537
+7
8.
King of Lee
672
533
.558
+2
9.
奔跑的兔子CN
549
394
.582
-1
10.
bilibili24511298丶无赖哥
1249
980
.560
+10

                    

                        1.
Krakenn
829
222
.789
+35
2.
MoronPark_Cat YE
349
57
.860
+14
3.
Krakenn
587
233
.716
+3
4.
Krakenn
1095
612
.641
+19
5.
Bober
883
398
.689
+5
6.
micmillan2
280
162
.633
+8
7.
Искусство ZZ
998
646
.607
+2
8.
Refero
379
114
.769
+1
9.
vonLewinski
300
113
.726
-1
10.
【HWG】W
717
439
.620
+1

                    

                        1.
☞ ps3YES ☜
2006
1083
.649
+1
2.
Flap
425
204
.676
+5
3.
DIRTY_FINISHER
1658
917
.644
-1
4.
TheMeowGamer
96
34
.738
+4
5.
【Clannad】
209
68
.755
+7
6.
✠Kaiser✠ PERVITIN
188
101
.651
-2
7.
André
240
101
.704
-1
8.
[虎贲] Leng Mo
110
49
.692
+1
9.
jager man
106
33
.763
-1
10.
☠R.i.P☠.PollitoConPapas
203
54
.790
+11

                    

                        1.
Yox
188
40
.825
+21
2.
Thales
752
285
.725
+2
3.
Tom
168
47
.781
+24
4.
Remder
597
177
.771
+4
5.
André
966
419
.697
+1
6.
Kamooos
241
119
.669
-2
7.
Ovidiu
1381
690
.667
+1
8.
★Osas
356
152
.701
+7
9.
Riiiiina
323
127
.718
+11
10.
Peppa
197
90
.686
-1

                    

                        1.
Mark
75
54
.581
+1
2.
nuclear taipei
722
578
.555
-3
3.
BATTLEDANNY1
397
285
.582
-1
4.
Per Aspera ad astra
274
221
.554
+1
5.
玛丽猫猫
566
415
.577
-1
6.
ukill
194
157
.553
+10
7.
同时出击吧！
307
201
.604
-1
8.
Shrimp
230
121
.655
-1
9.
Admonten
178
172
.509
+1
10.
一个坏人
128
46
.736
-2

                    

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