Does the pak 40 really need a stun ability?

Jump back to quoted post25 Apr 2016, 09:37 AMFinndeed

Another fair weather argument. Things don't always go to plan, sometimes you have no choice but to be aggressive and that the pak shot. But its a long stun time and I think you can work it to be a double shot as well (quick reload) but i'm not sure about that.

Jump back to quoted post25 Apr 2016, 11:08 AMIntelligence209

Next week,

-ambush cammo OP!
-hull down OP!
-Scout OP!

Don't fix what isn't broken.

Jump back to quoted post25 Apr 2016, 10:39 AMElSlayer

No, you can't. TWP for Pak-40 is a "buff" for 4 seconds that gives stun effect to its shells.
So, basically it is "your next shot will do stun".

Tiger Ace on the other hand indeed do surpass cooldown of main gun, so it can instagib Jackson with triple shot in like... 4 seconds I think. Shot, TWP, shot. Done.

Look, I agree that it may smell like bad design - an ability that makes loss of control with no counterplay.
But I really feel that Wermacht need it.

Jump back to quoted post25 Apr 2016, 14:34 PMFinndeed

Why do they need it? They have faust's and they have the option for double shrecks. I feel that they don't need a long range stun ability which can shut down any kind of armored push. I have used the ability countless times to lock down an IS2 and just batter it from long range. I often didnt kill it but I basically kept it in perma-repair, and that's one of the toughest tanks in the game... Imagine ANY other allied tank.

Jump back to quoted post25 Apr 2016, 10:31 AMAustralian Magic

Guards' button - too OP, nerf if*
Target Weak Point - fine.


*Guards button could be countered by smoke, Guards did not inflict damage, you had to combine few different units to make full use of button while Pak40 simply stuns and snipes itself.

Jump back to quoted post25 Apr 2016, 07:21 AMNEVEC

Such a ridiculous ability with 0 counterplay. Jackson can't survive this.

Jump back to quoted post25 Apr 2016, 10:31 AMAustralian Magic

Guards' button - too OP, nerf if*
Target Weak Point - fine.


*Guards button could be countered by smoke, Guards did not inflict damage, you had to combine few different units to make full use of button while Pak40 simply stuns and snipes itself.

Jump back to quoted post25 Apr 2016, 17:41 PMofield

So you can't flank pak40s and they also kill infantry + immune to arty? About time this fucking op piece of shit gets nerfed!! RAGE

QUestion to op. Does the Zis really need arty ability?

Jump back to quoted post25 Apr 2016, 17:54 PMAustralian Magic

Ok.
Imagine Commandos or Shock Troops with stunning nade which lasts few seconds.

How OP that would be?

Jump back to quoted post25 Apr 2016, 18:00 PMPedro_Jedi

PaK fine. Leave PaK be. Don't mess PaK. Love, PaK.

Jump back to quoted post25 Apr 2016, 18:05 PMfrostbite

the pack is decent i love it also but the stun ability is to good. as a allied army if u are running in with a tank and a pak sees ur tank and shoots u.. after the first hit u gonna try to run cuz ur already about to die. so if next hit stuns u and ur stunned for 5 seconds ur tank is dead. if the stun shot is the first shot it still does damage and u need 2 more shots to kill the tank. and it usually always dies. maybe if the stun did no dmg just stun only?

Jump back to quoted post25 Apr 2016, 18:15 PMPedro_Jedi

I don't have this problem most of the time. I use a lot of recon abilites and usually screen with infantry. At a plus, at my skill level, people just forget TWP. No problem for me.

Jump back to quoted post25 Apr 2016, 18:34 PMPedro_Jedi

It's easy to see what players I'm playing - they are good enough to get used to the game, but lack the dedication to up their game with hotkeys, control groups, better map awareness and don't come up with all-enclosing strategies, either with or without commanders. When I'm getting better, I scratch those limits and get hit hard by those overall better players.