Relic should stop balancing the game around 1v1

Jump back to quoted post10 Apr 2016, 12:21 PMshadowwada

Every great game is balanced around the competitive scene because that is where the overpowered stuff has the most influence. The balance will easily trickle down to the rest of the game.

There are a lot of problems and they ALL stem from relic not paying attention to their pro scene

Jump back to quoted post10 Apr 2016, 12:21 PMshadowwada

paying attention to their pro scene

Jump back to quoted post9 Apr 2016, 04:11 AM__deleted__

Remove maps from automatch for 2v2 that are played as 1v1 maps. Like Kharkov and semosky and crossing woods. They're to small for 2v2s.... Get rid of cluster city maps like trois ponts and edelerbruck.

It's one of the biggest issues with 2v2s. We dont have very good quality 2v2 maps right now.... and many of them are just to small or to clustered to be balanced.

Jump back to quoted post8 Apr 2016, 15:57 PMKovuTalli

Or, just balance 1v1/2v2 and 3v3/4v4 as two different brackets. Like PvE/PvP is balanced in other games.

Same system, slightly different stats/mechanics.

Jump back to quoted post8 Apr 2016, 19:21 PMBasilone

Blobbing will never be fixed, COH2 is very conducive to it compared to vcoh and here's just a few reasons why:

-USF get smoke grenades
-conscript oorah makes spreading out less important since you can quickly relocate 1 or more squads for small muni cost
-anti infantry vehicles are either more expensive (Ostwind) or less effective (armored cars) than their vcoh counterparts
-the way mines work punish players heavily for straying from a sweeper unit
-2 factions don't have snipers
-MGs dropping on retreat give more incentive to rush everything to a defensive position now that you have better chance of recapturing it for yourself
-off map artillery is more delayed
-some units such as field support guns and Scotts are probably better at insta gibbing stationary single squads instead of punishing a blob so long as its moving
-OKW completely revolves around infantry

Jump back to quoted post8 Apr 2016, 19:42 PMBasilone

What I meant was in the early stages of the game the balance guys mostly ignored what people like Aimstrong, Seph, DevM, Tommy, Inverse, Budwise, etc. had to say. Then later they had balance beta groups which consisted mostly of Relics "friends." A few of them really good, others average at best. The last and near perfect vcoh patch was mostly the work of the community, some legitimate experts at the game and others more balance and unit stat gurus. No private group they've put together has been as capable as that one, and the groups they did have were always put in the dark when they were about to milk new paid OP bullshit.

Jump back to quoted post13 Apr 2016, 04:58 AMthegreatone1b

I agree and great idea.

Jump back to quoted post13 Apr 2016, 05:04 AMthegreatone1b

I agree especially with your smoke grenade point.

Jump back to quoted post13 Apr 2016, 05:06 AMthegreatone1b

+1