Flare mines - OKW gave us solution!

Jump back to quoted post21 Mar 2016, 13:04 PMIron Emperor

I'd leave it as it's now, since it can kill something so you need to take some time to place them. There should be a maximum to kill of like 2 models, since it can wipe all units when you pop them out of the building, which is just plain stupid.

Jump back to quoted post21 Mar 2016, 13:59 PMWaegukin

"...Its only issue is that it shows up on guards and shocks that would have been better off with other vet abilities."

Jump back to quoted post21 Mar 2016, 13:07 PMMissCommissar

I think, that flare mines should not deal damage at all. It might be unrealistic, but if that mine can kill even few models, what for then USSR needs doctrinal anti-infantry PMD mines? They suppoused to do same - deal small damage to enemy infantry, they are cheap also.

Jump back to quoted post22 Mar 2016, 07:27 AMMissCommissar

I have an idea guys, maybe give instead of flare mines to soveit troops in vet 1 "Hit the dirt" ability? It may be usefull in that way.

Jump back to quoted post21 Mar 2016, 15:21 PMTobis

Trip wire flares are good, and I think it is fine on Cons and engis, but it's ridiculous that guards, shocktroops, and penals get trip wire flares too. Not enough variety in this game. Replace it with something more useful that fits the unit better. Likewise, they should change the capping point bonus on soviet tanks, and not every Ostheer squad should get healing thing either.

Jump back to quoted post22 Mar 2016, 18:56 PMRedDevilCG

What's stupid about special forces coming out of infiltrated positions?
On topic, flare mines are used in ESL, and quite often too. Mine doorways with them to wipe whole squads exiting buildings, or to take out a man on German troops entering buildings. Plus it reveals everything around the building too.

Jump back to quoted post22 Mar 2016, 19:03 PMRedDevilCG

If the damage was removed, then they should probably cost 0 munitions, but have a longer cool down to avoid spamming. It would be sad if the Soviets lost them completely though, as it's an interesting quirk for that army.

Jump back to quoted post22 Mar 2016, 19:00 PMMissCommissar

Again, I 100% sure, that flare mine shouldn't have damage effects. It's totally wrong! For to deal damage USSR must use other mines, purpoused for that. I would look at "flare mines damage" like at nasty bug, which makes that ability better, but should be fixed anyway.

Jump back to quoted post22 Mar 2016, 19:05 PMMissCommissar

Nobody will use them even for 0 munitions... Too much efforts for random sight. Don't really worth it. And what about "Hit the dirt" for Vet 1? Would be nice, also.

Jump back to quoted post22 Mar 2016, 21:41 PMTobis

So basically you are saying we should nerf them so nobody would ever use them again? Because other people find them useful and you don't, you want to drag everyone down to your level so they will replace it with something not shit.

Jump back to quoted post22 Mar 2016, 18:56 PMRedDevilCG

What's stupid about special forces coming out of infiltrated positions?

Jump back to quoted post22 Mar 2016, 19:05 PMMissCommissar

Nobody will use them even for 0 munitions... Too much efforts for random sight. Don't really worth it. And what about "Hit the dirt" for Vet 1? Would be nice, also.