OKW Need Some better Anti-Blob Tools

Jump back to quoted post9 Mar 2016, 11:53 AMPutinist

It is a waste of resources as it is now yes. That doesn't change the fact that a 30 fuel price tag will mess up the timing completely, so it most likely will never happen. Therefor the buffs have to be something else.



I agree. So the solution should be to make it effective when used offensively, and more durable. Mobility (set up-time) and squishyness is what makes this difficult atm, so that's where the changes should be.

Jump back to quoted post9 Mar 2016, 14:43 PMLooney

Has OP tried anything of the following;

Flame nades
Infiltration nades
Stuka
Luch
ST
Own blob
HMG34
LeiG
Obers
Flak HT
Retreating faster

I think OKW got the best blob counters apart from soviets who got demo charges.

Jump back to quoted post9 Mar 2016, 13:50 PMmycalliope

Ok,Why was sturmtiger Aoe ninja nerfed..??? its nerfed from 10 to 8..??? why

Jump back to quoted post9 Mar 2016, 14:52 PMKatitof

For the exactly same reason why AVRE was nerfed.

Back to your corner of tears now.

Jump back to quoted post9 Mar 2016, 14:43 PMLooney

Has OP tried anything of the following;

Flame nades
Infiltration nades
Stuka
Luch
ST
Own blob
HMG34
LeiG
Obers
Flak HT
Retreating faster

I think OKW got the best blob counters apart from soviets who got demo charges.

Jump back to quoted post9 Mar 2016, 15:04 PMCulainn

I play OKW often and of what you mentioned only the Lynx and Obers are decent blob solutions and they come late to the party. The rest have their uses but not as a blob counter, the faptrack needs to be rethought to fulfill that role.

Jump back to quoted post9 Mar 2016, 14:40 PMCulainn

Set up time is one problem, maybe just have it fire while stopped but removing the setup time. However the issue with squishyness is related to the zook boost, not the vehicle stats itself. I've recently watched some vintage footage of the 20mm faptrack and it really is the ww2 equivalent of an Iraqi 'Technical', a pickup with a gun mounted in the bed. Even one zook in real life would waste it.

The range of the zook would need to be nerfed for a believable rectification. However I still do not see anyone buying a 55 fuel faptrack no matter what, the lynx is so much better and its right there. The fuel cost must be reduced.

Joseph

Jump back to quoted post9 Mar 2016, 15:11 PMwhitesky00

because you don't know how to use IR halftrack and stuka. and every other OKW unit it seems. QQ more. I play more OKW than you yet my % is a lot different too. I wonder why.

Jump back to quoted post9 Mar 2016, 15:46 PMPutinist

Yeah, would be interesting to see if removing setup time would change anything. It's a bigger buff in many ways than one might think.

Still, reduced fuel cost will break timing and it's realisticly very unlikely that it happens.It would either require a shuffle of units in the tier buildings, which is very improbable, a system similar to the AEC (also very improbable), or a gun nerf which would result in an similary unbelievable rectification as a defensive stat buff, and I don't see that happening either. I'm not saying I don't want it to change, but I simply don't think it will happen due to the amount of changes that has to be implemented with it. A defensive stat boost, while looking ugly and unrealistic (as so many other things in this game) would be the easiest route to take, and is therefor more realistic to happen.

Jump back to quoted post9 Mar 2016, 15:59 PMCulainn

I believe when the veterancy bug is fixed the zook boost will no longer be needed and should be removed.

Joseph

Jump back to quoted post9 Mar 2016, 16:00 PMPutinist

I agree that it could be worth looking at.

Jump back to quoted post9 Mar 2016, 15:57 PMCulainn

Even a beginner has ears to hear the stuka fire, all you have to do is move and it misses. As blobs move it is not effective.

Jump back to quoted post9 Mar 2016, 16:18 PMwhitesky00

which shows your degree of how to use the weapon. you know the land, you know the layout and positioning. he gets no flares to judge the vicinity of where the strike will be. You expect people to just sit there for any type of artillery to just land on them? do you not use chokepoints and infantry to bait them? apparently, not. You just want more autofire weapons that will do your job for you. anyways, i will stop replying to you now. please QQ more that no other weapons are viable.

Jump back to quoted post9 Mar 2016, 16:37 PMCulainn

No I do not expect him to sit there, I expect him to move as I said. However it is apparent you are not interested in a civil conversation, rather you want to be insulting and arrogant. You shame yourself.

Joseph

Jump back to quoted post28 Feb 2016, 01:28 AMRedDevilCG

There is a non-doctrinal suppression platform, but it's really fragile and not cheap: Flak Halftrak.

It even has a setup and teardown time like an MG does. Is it a good solution? Hell no, as 55 fuel is not a cheap investment for a 320hp unit, but it is an instant suppression unit.

Jump back to quoted post9 Mar 2016, 16:48 PMwhitesky00

I'm sorry you shame yourself Mr. sub-par 50% wins in all factions. I suggest watching more replays and less QQ and more pew pew.

Jump back to quoted post9 Mar 2016, 17:54 PMSirlami

If you dont believe him then ill be the one to say it, stuka is not a reliable blob counter. Also it cripples your tech too much since allies can afford the blob and light vehicles to push okw off the map.

Whats that shitty 60% win rate you got there