It's about time to talk about Molotovs again

Jump back to quoted post27 Jan 2016, 02:16 AMTobis

Does the fire on the ground stack? I was under the impression that it did not.

Jump back to quoted post27 Jan 2016, 02:16 AMTobis

Does the fire on the ground stack? I was under the impression that it did not.

Jump back to quoted post27 Jan 2016, 03:45 AMSturmTigerGaddafi

Molis burn garrisoned units really well. If you are baiting with one squad, most of mg models will be on one side of the building. If you throw a moli on the other side you will do little to no dmg.

This goes for any type of garrison assault method (grenades, mortars, small arms fire, flamers), always engage/aim the side of building where the opposition engages from.

Jump back to quoted post27 Jan 2016, 06:01 AMNuclear Arbitor

molotovs are pretty bad but they're cheap and they have their place (anti-garrison/emplacement). they're not something you should get unless you're fighting those specific situations though.

Jump back to quoted post27 Jan 2016, 06:03 AMDullahan

Mollies are okay.

Really pale in comparison to OKW incendiary nade though just because the animation is stupid short.

One way to use mollies is to screen against units like Spios or pgrens. If they have to run through the fire to get you they will lose.

Mortars are my preferred garrison counter though. Just smoke off the building and they aren't doing shit to you.

Jump back to quoted post27 Jan 2016, 06:26 AMCaptain QQ

90% of my games are mg building spam or spio rush fuel/cutoff buildings to stall for hmg.



I am just so underwhelmed by the soviet non-doctrinal mortar compared to the german couterparts. counterbarrage

Jump back to quoted post27 Jan 2016, 04:00 AMVuther

Tried it! Think they do, two will kill a squad in about 8 seconds while one takes around 15.

Jump back to quoted post26 Jan 2016, 19:32 PMCaptain QQ

I guess i need to start saving the replays that make me mad too...

Jump back to quoted post27 Jan 2016, 06:26 AMCaptain QQ

I am just so underwhelmed by the soviet non-doctrinal mortar compared to the german couterparts. counterbarrage

Jump back to quoted post27 Jan 2016, 08:57 AMJespe

This might be a problem... you do not learn anything by reliving your greatest victories.

Soviet mortars are generally lot better than german ones... *Flares* only thing i found german ones better is when you have to hit with pointblank accuracy...

And that 120mm mortar should have shorter range it already hits like steam locomotive no need for it to outshoot non-doctrinal mortar...

Jump back to quoted post26 Jan 2016, 21:10 PMwhitesky00

This would probably require a cost increase. I believe someone said it was 15? I believe the incen grenade was 45.

Jump back to quoted post27 Jan 2016, 10:29 AMCaptain QQ

Their accuracy and ROF is insane.

Jump back to quoted post27 Jan 2016, 10:29 AMCaptain QQ

The flare doesn't even work half the time, though it does make sure to deduct the 40 muni. It's been bugged for as long as I can remember.

Jump back to quoted post27 Jan 2016, 10:29 AMCaptain QQ

The 120mm mortar's extra range is one of the few ways I know of the deal with ISG. Besides, it's manpower cost and pop cost are extensive. Shoving it a 120 shell up the ass of 3 german mortars squeezed together to barrage a building is a wet dream.

Jump back to quoted post27 Jan 2016, 15:08 PMJespe

Great that you found a weapon agains ISG, But have you ever thinked that as ISG is rather annoying that 120mm feels like ISG on steroids when playing with OST. and soviets even have suppression platform to defend it...


But about the molotovs... How about buffing it? make it more expensive and work against tanks?

Jump back to quoted post27 Jan 2016, 15:08 PMJespe

and soviets even have suppression platform to defend it...

Jump back to quoted post27 Jan 2016, 15:08 PMJespe

But about the molotovs... How about buffing it? make it more expensive and work against tanks?

Jump back to quoted post27 Jan 2016, 15:17 PMMittens

pls for the love of god buff Molos, give them a muni cost increase but compared to the volk non tech nade (its included in teir tech) its trash.
Takes forever to throw, 30% less throw range to the volks flame nade (unless vet 3 cons), and does very little impact damage for 15 muni and hoorah! to close the distance to EVEN throw the damn thing. You lose more than you gain by pressing that button. Its almost as bad as vollyfire.