Making HT+inf call ins more attractive.

Currently the following abilities that call in a HT loaded with inf are available:
1) M5 half-truck assault group (CP 5) (540/30)1 M5 + 1 assault Guards,
actual value (according to units prices) 270+330=600/30
2) Mechanized grenadier group (CP 3)(500/30)1 250+1 grenadier+1 lmg,
actual value 200+240=440/30/60
3) Mechanized assault group (CP 3) (490/30) 1 250+1 P.grenadier,
actual value 200+340=540/30
4) M3 half-truck assault group (CP 3) (520/35) 1 M3+1 assault engineer,
actual value 270+260=530/35

These call in are rather unattractive because:
1) they need allot of Manpower
2) why might need both vehicle and unit.

Although the come at discounter compared to the single call-in half-trucks that come with premium
M5 half-truck transport (CP 3) (350/30) 1 M5 actual value 270/30
Reapply half-truck (CP 4) (270/30) 1 M3 actual value 200/25
the single one are more attractive because one get only what he wants...

My suggestion would be to:
leave them as call in as they are but also allow both vehicle and unit to be built at base (T0) for the normal cost. If that is too much unlock the built once the ability has been used once.
This change would allow units that see rather little use like the assault Guards and assault engineers to be used more...

Secondary suggestions:
250 generally feel like a units created and forgotten. The units should be able to vet as others (wither with weapon or thru sharing XP), should come with a weapon, and maybe even be able to reinforce as the rest of HTs.

I would further suggest that in the "Mechanized grenadier group" that seems as the worst deal to replace grenadier with stormtroopers giving access to more exotic unit.

Mechanized Grens group is just too expensive...

only m5+guards can be useful, other call-ins are not as good because vehicles are overpriced
1)sdkfz 250 has no MG mount
2)USF m3 halftrack HP is too low

For OH I would suggest that 250 come with an MG mounted on top. No supression just something sdkfz style. Totally agree on grens and pzgrens replacement with storms. In german mechanized doctrine they my come with stgs and in Mechanised assault they may come equiped with a shreck. And no reinforcement ability for the 250 ht.

...aaand these call-ins will look attarctive enough.

For OH I would suggest that 250 come with an MG mounted on top. No supression just something sdkfz style. Totally agree on grens and pzgrens replacement with storms. In german mechanized doctrine they my come with stgs and in Mechanised assault they may come equiped with a shreck. And no reinforcement ability for the 250 ht.

...aaand these call-ins will look attarctive enough.

Great idea!

250 HT should be way cheaper as it vulnerable to small arms fire and very fragile in general.

The Gren / PGren mechanized group should cost less fuel. The 250 is worth 20 fuel at most.

Carrying units in halftracks in general is not a good idea in this game.

Only WC-51 and M3 Scout Cars have any utility in this, and even then that disappears at what, minute 5?

First off, I'm pretty sure Assault Guards are still mediocre because they never got the PPSH buff that conscripts got.

I agree that some half-tracks groups could do with a cost decrease.

Everyone's said it already; the Sdkf halftrack is just 100% useless and adds to the cost of the call-in with no benefit

I don't think the 250 halftrack is useless per-se - the PZGren version in Mech. Assault can be quite potent as a team weapon flanker or a flank harasser. Depending on map you can also use it as a ghetto Kubel to go after cut-offs.

That being said the call-ins do feel a bit costly and in a competitive game its often hard to store that much MP for them.

I migth be low lvl, but i enjoy using the assualt doctrine with "Mechanized assault group"

With the halftrack + Pgrens (upgraded with shrecks) i can have a rather mobile AT force, which allows me to skip T2.

A halftrack with Pgrens + Shrecks give a very potent fast-response AT force, for ligth vechiles (and two of them can counter a early medium tank)

Furthermore it is also possible to put flamerpios into the halftrack for fast cover clearence, or Ass-Grens for support weapon wipes.

But the best thing, is that it is often possible to skip T2 and stall to get a fast medium tank (sometimes P4/StuG, sometimes shortbarreld StuG spam which obliberates infantry...)

For OH I would suggest that 250 come with an MG mounted on top. No supression just something sdkfz style. Totally agree on grens and pzgrens replacement with storms. In german mechanized doctrine they my come with stgs and in Mechanised assault they may come equiped with a shreck. And no reinforcement ability for the 250 ht.

...aaand these call-ins will look attarctive enough.

Ehh I like lmg grens from mechanizedJust replace them lmg grens if u want when called in. Mech assault would be better if it was storms with dual panzershreck automatically, one shreck aint gonna do shit unless it was g43s plus the shreck.

Adding a crappy 251 mg on top isn't really a buff anyway. I'd prefer like m5 armor on the 250 instead.

For OH I would suggest that 250 come with an MG mounted on top. No supression just something sdkfz style. Totally agree on grens and pzgrens replacement with storms. In german mechanized doctrine they my come with stgs and in Mechanised assault they may come equiped with a shreck. And no reinforcement ability for the 250 ht.

...aaand these call-ins will look attarctive enough.

Great idea. +1

I would change the veterancy requirements for all halftracks to work somewhat like the major when they don't have a weapon equipped. Right not the stock 251 and the M5 have no hope of making use of their reinforcement veterancy because they will never get it. I propose adding a major-like veterancy gain where they will gain veterancy for being near units fighting. The 250 halftrack callin would also receive the ability to reinforce and given some veterancy that it can gain like the other halftracks. Finally, on all the call-in halftracks I would decrease the fuel cost. It is fine for a few commanders to pay less fuel for some units that they could have bought stock.

I believe this would solve the problem with call-in and regular halftracks.

The problem therein lies with farming vet off other units, then upgunning.

I personally think that the MHT could use a different haircut. I mean it's stil not going ot be a 10 but I could definitely see it becoming a 4/10 or maybe even 5/10 after visiting a decent hairstylist.

Another small idea for the Mechanized Assaultgroup HT: https://www.google.dk/search?q=half+track+20mm+gun&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwjsypqewb_KAhUD_ywKHSrcClAQ_AUIBygB&biw=1638&bih=824#tbm=isch&q=sdkfz+250%2F9&imgrc=Jpwefbks6lpqlM%3A

Give it an upgrade, adding a Little bit of armor and a 222 turret.

Or this: https://www.google.dk/search?q=sdkfz+250/10&biw=1638&bih=824&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwiPpurPwr_KAhWGliwKHc5-DVsQ_AUIBigB#imgrc=-79mtskjDMpZ4M%3A

A small AT gun, effective vs ligth vechiles and ligth armor, but rather useless against medium tanks.

It'd be interesting if the 250 halftrack could be then further upgraded into a mortar halftrack.