Airborne Company Commander

Request: Change ability
Reason: Useless, redundant
Content:
Change mg and atgun paradrop into british Air Resupply Operation ability.
Add p47 strafing or loiter recon from Calliope commander.
(Optional)Allow pathfinder from building.

Request: Change ability
Reason: Useless, redundant
Content:
Change mg and atgun paradrop into british Air Resupply Operation ability.
Add p47 strafing or loiter recon from Calliope commander.
(Optional)Allow pathfinder from building.

You cannot simply define a commander "good" or bad, all are meant to be balanced and have different abilities, some being weaker then others. The Mg and AT paradrop are very useful, they don't need the air resupply, as maybe you don't need an AT gun or an MG, it caters to what you need. If they simply make it so you can buy them for munitions, the commander would be somewhat worth playing again, as of now it's a huge Manpower sink.

MG and PaK drops can come in handy if you didn't tech LT+CPT.

p47s are garbage, they miss moving targets and do low damage compared to the godly stuka CAS AND they cost 240 ammo

support weapon drops are overpriced as now it's viable to tech both lt and cpt

The only good things are paratroopers and pathfinders

my opinion

You cannot simply define a commander "good" or bad, all are meant to be balanced and have different abilities, some being weaker then others. The Mg and AT paradrop are very useful, they don't need the air resupply, as maybe you don't need an AT gun or an MG, it caters to what you need. If they simply make it so you can buy them for munitions, the commander would be somewhat worth playing again, as of now it's a huge Manpower sink.

Stupid me, I mean how does my suggestion sound, not the commander...

Is there any way to fix vote title?

Stupid me, I mean how does my suggestion sound, not the commander...

Is there any way to fix vote title?

I see. You could have a mod change the title.

P47s were great.

Someone says that misses on the move.

they missess every time vs anything but heaviest.

Now they need spotters.

Before I reduced health of Heavy a bit and snare it then called p47s to finish the target.

Now it doesn't work.

Lelic should remove vision but they must attack any vehicles target in their area.

All abilities were usefull

was my favorit USF commander for late game

Now I have better USF commader thru warspoil I got Caliope.

They need to be paradropped with men to crew them like in vCoH.

They need to be paradropped with men to crew them like in vCoH.

doesn't matter I would not use it just because of it.

USF At gun is sh it

pathfinders crit ability & captured weapons- gotta love that.

P47 rocket strike is good but Pathfinders do need a change.

pathfinders crit ability & captured weapons- gotta love that.

to expensive to reinforce

and time that takes to reinforce is too much.

doesn't matter I would not use it just because of it.

USF At gun is sh it

D-don't talk shit about my favorite AT-gun.

It becomes really good with vet, I swear!

D-don't talk shit about my favorite AT-gun.

It becomes really good with vet, I swear!

Take Aim is good.

But gun itself is sheesh

AT gun comes too late.

What is wrong with the commander?

It allows you to support your allies or yourself with weapons you wouldn't get normally, because tech choices.

Its fine commander with a nice mix of support and offensive capabilities.

Request: Change ability
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Content:
Change mg and atgun paradrop into british Air Resupply Operation ability.
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MU for ATG and HMG is actually less appealing...

USF Resupply(new)	UKF Resupply
- Drop 50cal & 57mm for 100 ammo	- Drop Vicker & 6 pounder & healing for pickup for 150 ammo
- Allow all airborne in the sector to reinforce	- Allow infantry to move faster

This reinforce will allow airborne to crew weapon without problem: they can reinforce now.

Request: Change ability
Reason: Useless, redundant
Content:
Change mg and atgun paradrop into british Air Resupply Operation ability.
Add p47 strafing or loiter recon from Calliope commander.
(Optional)Allow pathfinder from building.

I personally give you a 0/5 for bad formatting.
To be nice, I'll do the corrections for you:

Title: "Adjust Airborne Company's ATG/ MG drop abilities"

Content:
-Insert reason for thinking it's useless and redundant, followed with
-Consolidate MG/ ATG drop abilities into a single ability plus other benefits
-Followed with a coherent reason as to why you think this makes the commander a useful and unique benefit as well as proving superior to current configuration

You're welcome.

As for the idea, some problems:
First, IMO Airborne is arguably the least head-ache inducing and most useful/ versatile of USF commanders- without having to choose LT or CPT you can actually spend manpower to drop weapons without researching either tier; all you need is more manpower and a squad o pick up the weapons for immediate use. And did I mention you can drop them anywhere with LOS?
This means it is FAR more flexible than the idea you bring up, which is consolidate both drops into a single instance (how it is now, you can choose MG or ATG anywhere, separately; with your idea, you must get both at once, presumably for a higher lump sum cost).
If you train HMG and 57mm from your base, the cost is, I recall, respectively 280 + 270 manpower for a total of 550 manpower (in addition to 7 popcap for each unit). Your idea however turns that cost into a mere 50 Munitions for each....and that's on top of the ability for all airborne in the sector to reinforce without the need for beacons or halftrack/ ambulance.
For the cost of less than two Grenadier LMGs, you can drop weapons that can suppress enemies and deal with armour, plus all your elite units can reinforce without any of the usual tactical limitations, and presumably, in enemy territory as well.
Obviously your idea is "use just airborne for everything without having to use ambulance". For only 100 munitions. Building beacons would then be pointless since you can spend 100 munitions to have a bunch of benefits on top of reinforcing without the need to consider usual reinforcement mechanics.

Oh yeah, and since it's two abilities combined into one with an additional benefit, the extra slot is given for a second airstrike capability.

As for comparing UKF's Air Resupply Operation, consider these:

-It is not a commander that comes with two elite unit call-ins (I don't consider Salvage Engineers a viable combat unit so they barely count as a unit call-in)
-The cost of their ability is more than yours
-Infantry do not reinforce, they reinforce faster, and only when friendly territory. It's designed in mind synergy with forward bases.

In any event, I would love to read your reasons for calling these abilities useless and redundant. To me, they are great way to bypass the usual LT/ CPT limitations all for a bit of extra manpower (and LOS).

Pathfinders should do bonus damage vs Sniper, Paratroopers vet could be better, support weapon call-ins could be cheaper. P47 ability underperforms for price, bring price down to 180.