Recent Patch note added just after the December Patch
"German Supply Drop zone plane comes in from longest path so that you can shoot down the plane now"
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nQwT1UMpxd8
Axis Supply Drop
6 Jan 2016, 00:39 AM
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6 Jan 2016, 00:42 AM
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Maybe M5 quadmount's just that bad at AA?
Which I still didn't expect. Like, that's lower than trash at AA.
Which I still didn't expect. Like, that's lower than trash at AA.
6 Jan 2016, 00:46 AM
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It shoots down Recon and other attack aircraft.
6 Jan 2016, 00:48 AM
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It noticed that as well. Supply drop still comes from axis base too often.
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6 Jan 2016, 00:53 AM
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It shoots down Recon and other attack aircraft.
Definitely true, still might be worth testing with other AA though. I'm pretty sure the M5 is about the only AA unit with penetration values not in the 10s aside from pintle MGs, right? (though I'm told AA is determined by a % to shoot-down per hit instead of actual health...but perhaps it still has to roll a penetrating hit to get that chance?)
6 Jan 2016, 00:54 AM
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krupp steel too strong
Axis doesn't have the best AT options in the game
6 Jan 2016, 01:06 AM
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The axis supply drop plane cannot be hot down, so the fact it doesn't come from the longest path is pretty much a non-issue.
6 Jan 2016, 01:17 AM
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.. the furer glory keeps all the planes in the air
6 Jan 2016, 01:27 AM
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The axis supply drop plane cannot be hot down, so the fact it doesn't come from the longest path is pretty much a non-issue.
So basically the plane is there because crates of resources appearing in a sector out of thin air would be too silly even for this game?
6 Jan 2016, 01:47 AM
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So basically the plane is there because crates of resources appearing in a sector out of thin air would be too silly even for this game?
pretty much, yeah. I don't see why they bothered. The soviet supply drop comes in an IL2
6 Jan 2016, 01:59 AM
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the plane for the allies supply drop also dies incredibly fast
Axis doesn't have the best AT options in the game
6 Jan 2016, 02:09 AM
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well that's embarrassing. hopefully the planes can be destroyed in the next patch... do the planes provide recon? i can't remember.
6 Jan 2016, 05:00 AM
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Only recon planes provide recon.
6 Jan 2016, 06:49 AM
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Too bad USF and Sov have to go out of their way to get AA. Even though it doesn't matter because it's shit anyway.
While OKW get it by default in one of their main buildings, and that alone is enough to shoot it down
I mean jesus christ they could atleast make the flak cannon cost 100 munitions or whatever instead of being free with the building.
While OKW get it by default in one of their main buildings, and that alone is enough to shoot it down
I mean jesus christ they could atleast make the flak cannon cost 100 munitions or whatever instead of being free with the building.
6 Jan 2016, 07:16 AM
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6 Jan 2016, 11:36 AM
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The axis supply drop plane cannot be hot down, so the fact it doesn't come from the longest path is pretty much a non-issue.
Actually, it kind of is as you're having much less time to react and possibly intercept, therefore mitigating counterplay.
Imagine the shitstorm we'd had if allied fuel drop came to sov base the same way, forcing axis player to actually have AA deep forward. And lets ignore OKW free, potent AA.
Maybe it's 'cause the Axis players aren't a bunch of forum crybabies, and they keep their cool and fight the uphill battle, unlike some of their "allied" counterparts.
6 Jan 2016, 13:37 PM
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Actually, it kind of is as you're having much less time to react and possibly intercept, therefore mitigating counterplay.
Contrary to allied supply drop that happen with no warning, player has some control over flight path and can even avoid, in some cases, flying over the enemy held map completely, supply drop zones comes with warning and last allot more time with planes following the same path allowing easier positioning of AA assets...one simply has more time react to supply zone than supply drop...
Further more supply drop zone can be counter on the ground while it is virtually impossible to counter supply drop.
But this a actually thread about a bug and not balance so there is little point debating balance here since there is already a another thread http://www.coh2.org/guides/47110/resource-modification-in-coh2 . And it does seem the supply drop planes can not be shot down...
6 Jan 2016, 13:38 PM
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Realistic speaking, the ground AA of COH2 is too effective like they are shooting stingers AA missiles.
In WWII, only the USN VT fuse shells used in Pacific able to effectively drop down planes like flies, which was forbidden to use against German because they fear the German stealing this technology, meanwhile all others AA gun was just a joke.
In WWII, only the USN VT fuse shells used in Pacific able to effectively drop down planes like flies, which was forbidden to use against German because they fear the German stealing this technology, meanwhile all others AA gun was just a joke.
6 Jan 2016, 13:42 PM
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So allied one dies to building (which should be fixed finally) but axis one is immortal? seems fine
Still dreaming of commander AA ability to "charge" figter for lets say 150 ammo which shoots down enme's planes. Somtetimes big wins like shooting down JU loiter, sotimes only recon. Once used, need 150ammo to charge again.
Still dreaming of commander AA ability to "charge" figter for lets say 150 ammo which shoots down enme's planes. Somtetimes big wins like shooting down JU loiter, sotimes only recon. Once used, need 150ammo to charge again.
6 Jan 2016, 14:37 PM
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This is a bug. The Axis planes are supposed to be targetable by Allied AA, even the patch notes say it. Before getting your panties in a twist let's just see if the issue is addressed next patch. The Axis supply drop has been better than the Allied one for more than 1 year.
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