List Of Dubious Veterancy Bonuses

Jump back to quoted post31 Dec 2015, 11:15 AMl4hti

Lol @ Lietnuant sprint being useless, it isnt

But the else is true

Jump back to quoted post31 Dec 2015, 12:46 PMCalm Water

Uhmm, how about very "useful" Capturing points ability at all soviet tanks, including IS-2, KV-1, and KV-2(maximum LoL)?

Jump back to quoted post31 Dec 2015, 13:02 PMDonnieChan

i use this very often, its great

Jump back to quoted post31 Dec 2015, 12:46 PMCalm Water

Uhmm, how about very "useful" Capturing points ability at all soviet tanks, including IS-2, KV-1, and KV-2(maximum LoL)?

Jump back to quoted post31 Dec 2015, 12:06 PM__deleted__

It is. By the time your other men arive, LT has usually died heroically for his country and the rest of the squad is in full retreat.

Jump back to quoted post31 Dec 2015, 15:47 PMgriezell

or form base you can send him faster to where the AT is needed or move fast to cap critical pionts. if you send them in as a blob and not watch your units then thats your problem

Jump back to quoted post31 Dec 2015, 11:10 AMCarlos Danger

I went through the site's veterancy guide and picked out the veterancy bonuses that I thought weren't very good. The idea's that hopefully they might be replaced with better buffs.

Combat Engineers
Vet 2 - +20% accuracy
Vet 3 - +15% accuracy, -15% cooldown
Received accuracy reductions would be far better bonuses.

ZiS-3
Vet 3 - +6.25% barrage range
Not a big enough bonus to even really be noticeable.

SU-76
Vet 3 - +11.1% barrage range
See ZiS-3.

Guards Rifle
Vet 2 +10% penetration
This very small bonus really isn't going to help these guys fight vehicles any better.

ML-20
Vet 2 - +30% rotation speed
A very small bonus. These units need cooldown reductions or firepower buffs, not better rotation speeds.

B4
Vet 2 - +50% rotation speed
See ML-20.

Pioneers
Vet 2 – +20% accuracy
Vet 3 - +15% accuracy, -15% cooldown
See Soviet Combat Engineers.

Stormtroopers
Veterancy bonuses should match Panzer Grenadiers

LeFH-18
Vet 2 - +30% rotation speed
See Soviet ML-20.

Mechanized LMG Grenadiers
Veterancy bonuses should match Grenadiers.

Rear Echelon
Vet 1 - +20% accuracy
This is only useful if you're spamming Echelons with BARs. Otherwise they don't need an accuracy buff.

Lieutenant
Vet 3 - Passive Sprint
This bonus causes the unit to run ahead of other US infantry units, turning him into an easy target for German units.

M20
Vet 3 - +50% penetration
Basically useless.

M15A1 AA Halftrack
Vet 3 - +30% penetration
Basically useless.

Major
Vet 1 - +20% accuracy
Because of all those times you need to tackle German infantry with the Major's M1911.

Sturmpioneers
Vet 3 - +25% construction speed
Basically useless.
Vet 3 - Concussive Grenades
Good ability but needs to be unlocked earlier.

LeIG-18
Vet 2 - +25% movement speed, -23% received accuracy
Both useless.
Vet 3 - -40% barrage recharge, +33% barrage range
Should probably apply to auto-fire as well.
Vet 5 - +15% penetration
Completely useless.

Flak Halftrack
Vet 4 - +15% penetration
In the unlikely event this unit hits vet 4, you're probably not going to be fighting Allied vehicles with it. Not a very big bonus either.

Walking Stuka
Vet 5 - +30% speed, +30% rotation speed, +30% ac/de-celeration
Completely useless on this unit.

MG34
Vet 4 - -20% received accuracy
A very weak bonus on a very weak unit. The gunners aren't supposed to be exposed to much gunfire anyways.

Jump back to quoted post31 Dec 2015, 12:06 PM__deleted__

It is. By the time your other men arive, LT has usually died heroically for his country and the rest of the squad is in full retreat.

Jump back to quoted post31 Dec 2015, 11:10 AMCarlos Danger

I went through the site's veterancy guide and picked out the veterancy bonuses that I thought weren't very good. The idea's that hopefully they might be replaced with better buffs.

Combat Engineers
Vet 2 - +20% accuracy
Vet 3 - +15% accuracy, -15% cooldown
Received accuracy reductions would be far better bonuses.

ZiS-3
Vet 3 - +6.25% barrage range
Not a big enough bonus to even really be noticeable.

SU-76
Vet 3 - +11.1% barrage range
See ZiS-3.

Guards Rifle
Vet 2 +10% penetration
This very small bonus really isn't going to help these guys fight vehicles any better.

ML-20
Vet 2 - +30% rotation speed
A very small bonus. These units need cooldown reductions or firepower buffs, not better rotation speeds.

B4
Vet 2 - +50% rotation speed
See ML-20.

Pioneers
Vet 2 – +20% accuracy
Vet 3 - +15% accuracy, -15% cooldown
See Soviet Combat Engineers.

Stormtroopers
Veterancy bonuses should match Panzer Grenadiers

LeFH-18
Vet 2 - +30% rotation speed
See Soviet ML-20.

Mechanized LMG Grenadiers
Veterancy bonuses should match Grenadiers.

Rear Echelon
Vet 1 - +20% accuracy
This is only useful if you're spamming Echelons with BARs. Otherwise they don't need an accuracy buff.

Lieutenant
Vet 3 - Passive Sprint
This bonus causes the unit to run ahead of other US infantry units, turning him into an easy target for German units.

M20
Vet 3 - +50% penetration
Basically useless.

M15A1 AA Halftrack
Vet 3 - +30% penetration
Basically useless.

Major
Vet 1 - +20% accuracy
Because of all those times you need to tackle German infantry with the Major's M1911.

Sturmpioneers
Vet 3 - +25% construction speed
Basically useless.
Vet 3 - Concussive Grenades
Good ability but needs to be unlocked earlier.

LeIG-18
Vet 2 - +25% movement speed, -23% received accuracy
Both useless.
Vet 3 - -40% barrage recharge, +33% barrage range
Should probably apply to auto-fire as well.
Vet 5 - +15% penetration
Completely useless.

Flak Halftrack
Vet 4 - +15% penetration
In the unlikely event this unit hits vet 4, you're probably not going to be fighting Allied vehicles with it. Not a very big bonus either.

Walking Stuka
Vet 5 - +30% speed, +30% rotation speed, +30% ac/de-celeration
Completely useless on this unit.

MG34
Vet 4 - -20% received accuracy
A very weak bonus on a very weak unit. The gunners aren't supposed to be exposed to much gunfire anyways.

Jump back to quoted post31 Dec 2015, 17:49 PMTobis

Or you could, you know, micro your units a little bit instead of telling them all to run in a blob. If he is getting ahead just make him stop and wait ffs. It's not like people complain about blitz on Ostheer tanks being too fast because it outruns the other tanks around it.