Poll: Should OKW Volks have their shrecks removed/modified?

Jump back to quoted post30 Dec 2015, 23:21 PMausownage

Do they actively monitor and respond to the opinions of those on CoH2.orgs forums?

Jump back to quoted post30 Dec 2015, 23:37 PMLooney

I pray to god they don't.

Jump back to quoted post31 Dec 2015, 11:58 AMEsxile

Purely removing shreck from volks would break the balance for another 6 months... I'm not saying it is a bad idea, just that it will take too much time to balance.

I believe the solution is on:
1- Adding munition cost to every single OKW abilities and increasing the low cost existent one to other faction level. This will reduce OKW overall powerfulness and force the player into tactical decision making around munition usage.
2- Add a fuel cost (around 10-20 each) to unlock shreck and flamnade + add a fuel cost (5) to the Kubel
3- Add a fuel/munition cost to the OKW T3 canon in a form of an upgrade.
4- Add a fuel/munition cost to the forwarded retreat point upgrade (and reduce its manpower cost)
5- Reduce manpower cost of doctrinal call-in and add munition upgrades (falls,jaegers)

Jump back to quoted post31 Dec 2015, 07:53 AMAustralian Magic

It's really simple. Schrecks or zooks shouldn't be main AT source. Zooks are already additional, they help but they are not main source. Same should happen to schrecks. For OST they are extra AT, not main AT. Same should apply to OKW. There are raketens, puma, jp4 and you should support them with schrecks. Currently it's opposite. You support schrecks blob with tanks.

Jump back to quoted post31 Dec 2015, 18:34 PMGrim

Agreed.

Right now as allies tank vs tank you dare not try and flank anything because 9 times out of 10 there will be a volkshrek blob trailing behind it waiting for you to do just that.

Almost killed a panther and want to give chase? Same thing again.

It forces you to try and slug it out with axis tanks face to face. Something they are ill equipped for.

Jump back to quoted post31 Dec 2015, 11:58 AMEsxile

Purely removing shreck from volks would break the balance for another 6 months.

Jump back to quoted post1 Jan 2016, 10:49 AMFiresparks

The OKW only really need the schreck for two reasons, Stuart and T70. The schreck on the volks are a life save if you went medical first and the other guy rush a stuart.

However, right now the schreck spam is becoming cancerous. Instead of using combine arms the okw are just spamming schreck until King tiger. The OKW already have the best armor line up in the game, with or without doctrine. They don't need access to the strongest inf anti-tank weapon on their base unit as well.

Jump back to quoted post31 Dec 2015, 19:02 PMLooney

Never give chase as allies in late game teamgames, pushing an axis tank back is victory enough, it'll give you map control and not to mention veterancy for your tanks.

Allied tanks can't overextend like axis tanks can. Which seems unfair, but it is what it is.

I've killed KT's and Tigers who just slightly overextended with their support out of reach. Never overextend yourself, except you absolutely know for sure it's safe.

Jump back to quoted post2 Jan 2016, 17:01 PMVonIvan

The new volk changes allow them to compete with riflemen at medium range. I can barely keep up with the wipes they are achieving.

I'd suggest re-working their values, rather than having their shreks removed.

Jump back to quoted post1 Jan 2016, 13:08 PMEsxile

And this would break the balance, making OKW T1 not even use anymore because of Stuart/T70 rush. Like USF T1 because of OKW T2 rush.

So leave them their shreck but increase their hidden cost by adding more munition sink around like I listen in my last post.

Jump back to quoted post1 Jan 2016, 15:55 PMA big guy 4u

Give 2 to obers for the same price as Panzergrens. either obers upgrade to MG or Schrecks, but give health penalty to schreck carrying squads.