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IS 2 problem

24 Dec 2015, 00:51 AM
#61
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50 range tigers and axis AT options.

schrecks being extremely effective against all soviet armor, coincidentally, most soviet anti armour options are actually armored which are countered by schrecks which soviets have no considerable equivalent.

stugs are mobile AT guns that are very effective against is2. granted soviet got su85, but thats a different tier which actually costs more to tech to and buy it than a stug. a better comparison is su76, which is an excellent support unit, if not for schrecks.

tigers having 50 range means is2 will get hit 1st especially when played defensively, it also means is2 can be kited.

so it really boils down to what the is2 has to face. there is just so much more effective anti armor threats that axis can field to counter is2.
24 Dec 2015, 00:55 AM
#62
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the is2 in the game already use the is2 1944 model.


It doesn't have the frontal pike. The latter 1944 model, there were three if I am correct, had the pike like the IS3 had.
24 Dec 2015, 01:25 AM
#63
avatar of Firesparks

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It doesn't have the frontal pike. The latter 1944 model, there were three if I am correct, had the pike like the IS3 had.

late is2 use a single flat plate for its glacis plate instead of two section plate on the early is2. IS doesn't get the pike until the is3
24 Dec 2015, 02:19 AM
#64
avatar of newvan

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"Nose" of IS-2 1943.




"Nose" of IS-2 1944, like in game.


24 Dec 2015, 02:32 AM
#65
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late is2 use a single flat plate for its glacis plate instead of two section plate on the early is2. IS doesn't get the pike until the is3


Oh my bad, thank you for this information my friend!
24 Dec 2015, 05:27 AM
#66
avatar of TAKTCOM

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1) Vet 1 IS-2 absolutly useless for heavy tank.
2) Tiger have they range buff. IS-2 his direct opponent of count this game, got nothing. Why?
jump backJump back to quoted post23 Dec 2015, 20:31 PMButcher
If you quote me, quote the entire text. Anything else is equal to a lie.

24 Dec 2015, 05:43 AM
#67
avatar of Mittens
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Adjust is2 accuracy / scatter. Pen is fine. Adjust its base range and vet range to tiger I
24 Dec 2015, 05:53 AM
#68
avatar of NinjaWJ

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jump backJump back to quoted post24 Dec 2015, 02:19 AMnewvan
"Nose" of IS-2 1943.




"Nose" of IS-2 1944, like in game.





nice pics. great looking tank
24 Dec 2015, 10:40 AM
#69
avatar of Airborne

Posts: 281

I think the IS-2 just need a range increase base like the tiger, and a vet 2 range buff +5 just like the tiger. And of course a vet ability that isn't bad.
24 Dec 2015, 11:41 AM
#70
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jump backJump back to quoted post24 Dec 2015, 05:27 AMTAKTCOM
Lie that IS-2 AP ammunition not "penetrating" the King Tigers or Panthers.
24 Dec 2015, 13:28 PM
#71
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jump backJump back to quoted post24 Dec 2015, 05:43 AMMittens
Adjust is2 accuracy / scatter. Pen is fine. Adjust its base range and vet range to tiger I

It seems that the community is shown unity in this matter:lol:
jump backJump back to quoted post24 Dec 2015, 11:41 AMButcher

I said it could bounce off with the AP ammunition "at times".

24 Dec 2015, 14:25 PM
#72
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jump backJump back to quoted post24 Dec 2015, 13:28 PMTAKTCOM

24 Dec 2015, 14:49 PM
#73
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jump backJump back to quoted post24 Dec 2015, 14:25 PMButcher

Finish on this. I think I too react to all this.
24 Dec 2015, 16:05 PM
#74
avatar of vietnamabc

Posts: 1063

IMHO, the real problem with IS-2 is its useless Vet1 and its accuracy vs inf, the rest is fine. But what was Relic's reason when they buffed Tiger's range?
24 Dec 2015, 16:52 PM
#75
avatar of UGBEAR

Posts: 954

Rework vet 1 for all soviet tanks, increase accuracy for IS-2, and adds some deflection damage for its 122mm gun, I mean 122mm gun got to have some awesome impact even without a armor penetrating!

and T-34/85 for non-doc.......
24 Dec 2015, 17:40 PM
#76
avatar of Domine

Posts: 500

IMHO, the real problem with IS-2 is its useless Vet1 and its accuracy vs inf, the rest is fine. But what was Relic's reason when they buffed Tiger's range?



Because the Tiger was supposed to be kind of an allrounder, but ended up as a tank that was just bad at everything. It was slow, expensive, short sighted and fragile. It is supposed to be a vulnerable but hard-hitting tank.
24 Dec 2015, 17:48 PM
#77
avatar of NEVEC

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It's scatter really strange, it lands behind enemy infantry more than half of the time.
24 Dec 2015, 18:04 PM
#78
avatar of ClassyDavid

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I don't think a range buff is necessary for IS-2 considering it has a high frontal armor compared to the Tiger. Just give it a slight accuracy bonus and if that's too good give it somewhat less aoe as a trade off.
24 Dec 2015, 19:03 PM
#79
avatar of Bananenheld

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jump backJump back to quoted post24 Dec 2015, 16:52 PMUGBEAR
Rework vet 1 for all soviet tanks, increase accuracy for IS-2, and adds some deflection damage for its 122mm gun, I mean 122mm gun got to have some awesome impact even without a armor penetrating!

and T-34/85 for non-doc.......

So you really think that would be balanced? I would bet 100$ that soviets would be fotm with this change
24 Dec 2015, 20:39 PM
#80
avatar of Midconflict

Posts: 204

Just increase the accuracy on the gun and we are good. Either that or lower down the reload time.
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