Weak Ostwind
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If you compare the Ostwind to the centaur, they both have the same fuel cost but the centaur is far better. I think the Ostwind needs to be brought in line with other AI vehicles. The only other stock anti infantry vehicle Ostheer has is the Brummbar, which while good, is in a much later tier. Since Ostheer has no decent AI light vehicle like the Soviets, USF, and OKW have, this medium AI tank should be buffed to fill the missing role.
What are your thoughts?
Edit to add:
I vote for an increase in the reload speed and fire rate. The Ostwind performs alright when it is actually shooting, but the incredibly long reload leaves any target it is shooting at a long window to run away or turn to fight it while it does nothing.
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If you compare the Ostwind to the centaur, they both have the same fuel cost but the centaur is far better. I think the Ostwind needs to be brought in line with other AI vehicles. The only other stock anti infantry vehicle Ostheer has is the Brummbar, which while good, is in a much later tier. Since Ostheer has no decent AI light vehicle like the Soviets, USF, and OKW have, this medium AI tank should be buffed to fill the missing role.
don't just ignore the mp cost. The centaur cost 40 mp more and is significantly slower.
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don't just ignore the mp cost. The centaur cost 40 mp more and is significantly slower.
It's still fast enough to chase down retreating infantry and annihilate them. Ostwind can chase you all the way back to base before it will wipe a squad.
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It's still fast enough to chase down retreating infantry and annihilate them. Ostwind can chase you all the way back to base before it will wipe a squad.
centuar max speed = 4.6
ostwind max speed = 6.3
infantry speed on retreat = 5.0
the centuar is factually slower than a retreating infantry, and a 1.6 difference is quite a bit.
The centuar and ostwind also kill models at the same rate. The centuar have the benefit of consistentce and generally more fragile german infantry.
Ostwind have a better AOE that allow it kill/damage multiple model at the same time.
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It should have just been a Whirblewind so it could basically be cloned from the Centaur.
I loved the Wirbelwind and I'm sad they didn't make it Ostheer's AA / AI platform. Especially since the Ostwind was rare and the Wirbelwind was.. still rare, but twice as common as the Ostwind.
If they ported the Wirbelwind over from CoH1 to Ostheer as a replacement, I'd be quite happy. OKW can keep their Ostwind, they're the 'rare toys' faction anyway.
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agreed centaur is fatter and better AI than Ostwind by alot....
assymetrical balance.
Ostwind is fine.
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Poor accuracy and dmg and is less effective than halftrack.
But then again relic on ignore mode as far as wehrmacht is concerned.
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Don't move around like a flee infested dog with ostwind and it'll rack up kills just as well.
mobility is key for survival. omly axis ai platform that is mobile and does good dmg is luchs.
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mobility is key for survival. omly axis ai platform that is mobile and does good dmg is luchs.
Mobility, not panic reverse as soon as you see single con squad.
You need to be mobile enough to not get engine crit, which single squad will not inflict on you.
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