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Cromwell too good for the cost

19 Dec 2015, 23:03 PM
#41
avatar of iTzDusty

Posts: 836 | Subs: 5

It's something that should get adjusted once ukf receives other buffs. Currently the most (and really only) viable brit play relies on the quick Cromwell.
19 Dec 2015, 23:24 PM
#42
avatar of Kubelecer

Posts: 403

It's 2016 soon and people still eat the bait
19 Dec 2015, 23:46 PM
#43
avatar of Firesparks

Posts: 1930

the only nerf the cromwell should ever take is the gun penetration.

its speed and smaller size is what allow it to remain viable even into the late game against the axis.

The sherman technically have better a better gun, but its size and slower speed doom it to mediocrity.
20 Dec 2015, 00:05 AM
#44
avatar of AchtAchter

Posts: 1604 | Subs: 3

Leave my Cromwell alone. I love this unit because I get more kills through crush than with the main gun.

Also the Cromwell is a crutch brits really need in the moment.

In my opinion second best medium tank after the Sherman
20 Dec 2015, 00:39 AM
#45
avatar of United

Posts: 253

Cmon guys what is wrong with the Cromwell.
How can anyone get mad at this unit?
20 Dec 2015, 01:35 AM
#46
avatar of tenid

Posts: 232

Guess this is the next nerf crusade then. By my reckoning the Cromwell and the Vickers are the only two stock brit units that haven't been nerfed one way or another since launch.

I've never really got much out of the Cromwell personally. Always felt a bit random if a shot would land or not against inf, and has to run from volks with shrecks. Never cared much for crush as a mechanic either.
20 Dec 2015, 03:43 AM
#47
avatar of ferwiner
Donator 11

Posts: 2885

Problem:
- As fast as the kubel
- Bounces panther peanuts as if there is no tomorrow
- Pooped out Too early


Solution:

- Increase the cost to 350/125


You know that panther has 240 pen while cromwell has 160 armor? So even if it had 1.5x more armor it would still get penetrated 100% of times. Just stop making those stupid threads.
20 Dec 2015, 12:31 PM
#48
avatar of Planet Smasher
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Posts: 632 | Subs: 1

I'm not even saying its armor/penetration/speed/whatever should be nerfed, it's totally alright where it is, performance-wise. But a slightly higher fuel cost would be appropriate, because it's currently more cost effective than most other medium tanks.

That said, I agree that Brits have quite a few other problems at the moment, and those should obviously be fixed at the same time.
20 Dec 2015, 22:40 PM
#49
avatar of A big guy 4u

Posts: 168

What a blatant lie.The Cromwell is perfect.

''Shots bounce'', maybe L2Flank ? As if t34/76 don't have to flank EVERY TIME.

Brit emplacements are already nerfed to the ground, now you want to ruin tanks too?
21 Dec 2015, 01:44 AM
#50
avatar of The_Courier

Posts: 665

It's something that should get adjusted once ukf receives other buffs. Currently the most (and really only) viable brit play relies on the quick Cromwell.


Very true. I always find myself thinking ''maybe I should get a BOFORS or an AEC?'' then decide that these units are so decidedly mediocre that manning it up until I can get a Cromwell for the shock value is a way better use of my fuel.

If the Cromwell needs any change in its timing or performance, it needs to come along a buff to UKF, especially their mid-game.
21 Dec 2015, 02:31 AM
#51
avatar of WingZero

Posts: 1484

Let's not jump to conclusion and nerf the British even more now. The unit is perfectly fine for the price and performance.
21 Dec 2015, 16:55 PM
#52
avatar of Rocket

Posts: 728

Cromwell is fine.
21 Dec 2015, 19:26 PM
#53
avatar of whitesky00

Posts: 468

p4 should have same penetration as cromwell. Short dick sherman has more penetration than the long barreled p4. Which makes no goddamn sense.


Oh yeah! MG42 has armor penetration rounds with 7.92mm rounds but .50CAL can't penetrate vehicles with 12.7mm rounds that were designed to rip planes and vehicles to shreds. Same old story...

They're trying to create balance... not realism. Otherwise, we know which tank, which MG, which mortar is superior.
21 Dec 2015, 19:51 PM
#54
avatar of Pablonano

Posts: 297

dunno, played with, played agains, it seemed k if not slighly under pz4, but for the cost its supposed to be like that
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