Meanwhile, 45mm atgun cries in corner.
Just test it Out
45mm in the 1st place,
USF ATG
Reken
Pak40
6 pounder
Ziss
Hope for USF AT-Gun?
27 Nov 2015, 13:12 PM
#41
Posts: 363
Just test it Out
45mm in the 1st place,
USF ATG
Reken
Pak40
6 pounder
Ziss
27 Nov 2015, 13:24 PM
#42
Posts: 571
The main word is "Vetted" this shit is dying too fast and it is hard to handle it to late game.
Vetted Kubelwagon
28 Nov 2015, 04:31 AM
#43
Posts: 758
i wud go for captain if the AT gun wasnt crap but instead i go for m20
28 Nov 2015, 08:26 AM
#44
Posts: 1891
Purpose of AT gun is to counter luchs and stug
The Fascisti Will Pay.
28 Nov 2015, 09:32 AM
#45
Posts: 758
Purpose of AT gun is to counter luchs and stug
lol wut thats all its good for? jesus H even a panzershreck, raketenwerfer and pak 40 could do that blindfolded...
28 Nov 2015, 09:41 AM
#46
Posts: 1891
lol wut thats all its good for? jesus H even a panzershreck, raketenwerfer and pak 40 could do that blindfolded...
Using at gun on tanks is not optimal imo because of muni cost requirement, and axis indirect/ JLI and Falls decrew them like nothing
Buying at gun to deal with FHT or flaktrack makes no sense because Stuart, m20, and rifles with smoke can deal with these
Alternatives as usf to at gun, m10 spam, jacksons, winning game before you need them, are all better
The Fascisti Will Pay.
28 Nov 2015, 13:29 PM
#47
Posts: 85
USF ATG needs to be upscaled a bit - it's great vs light and even most medium armour right now but it cannot touch heavy armour in a longer game. Increase cost of the AT gun and increase penetration. A faction with the worst late game anti-tank struggles against big tank pushes.
Other than that, at vet1 it's great.
Or as a complete alternative, give USF something that can reliably damage big tanks, even a commander with a 57mm (equivalent to 6 pounder).
Other than that, at vet1 it's great.
Or as a complete alternative, give USF something that can reliably damage big tanks, even a commander with a 57mm (equivalent to 6 pounder).
28 Nov 2015, 13:43 PM
#48
1 
Posts: 2885
Large team games are different from 1v1 and 2v2. In late game you meat 2-3 KT in the same moment. Your AT gun still bounce and KT one shots your guns.
All AT guns need cloak in green cover.
If we are talking 3v3 an 4v4 there is no need for usf to have at gun at all, brits and soviets can do this if players arent competent enough to use usf at guns to full potentiall. But on the other hand thanks to 70 range it should be the best at gun on open spaces that happen to exist only in team games. Will it bounce? Ofc, but other at guns wont even shoot at this range. Also dont tell me that all you have when kts arrive is one at gun
Also mind that even without ap shells it still has better pen than p4. And you use p4s to kill tanks, dont you?
28 Nov 2015, 14:22 PM
#49
Posts: 88
If we are talking 3v3 an 4v4 there is no need for usf to have at gun at all, brits and soviets can do this if players arent competent enough to use usf at guns to full potentiall. But on the other hand thanks to 70 range it should be the best at gun on open spaces that happen to exist only in team games. Will it bounce? Ofc, but other at guns wont even shoot at this range. Also dont tell me that all you have when kts arrive is one at gun
Also mind that even without ap shells it still has better pen than p4. And you use p4s to kill tanks, dont you?
Was made clear that this guy does not even play Axis and just begs for buffs for allied units in every thread...
28 Nov 2015, 17:01 PM
#50
Posts: 30
USF AT gun has the fastest fire-rate of all AT guns, what else does it need?
feels pretty weird to have the same unit historically performing pretty differently. Would it really kill the game for both to use the current 6pdr stats?
28 Nov 2015, 17:02 PM
#51
Posts: 30
feels pretty weird to have the same unit historically performing pretty differently. Would it really kill the game for both to use the current 6pdr stats? Just copy the unit to USF. Will take it over rate of fire and muni sin any day.
29 Nov 2015, 15:46 PM
#52
Posts: 1384
feels pretty weird to have the same unit historically performing pretty differently. Would it really kill the game for both to use the current 6pdr stats?
Personally I care more about factions having uniaue playstyles and tools than I do about accurate representation.
I feel like the 6lber was lazy as shit in comparison to how well the other AT guns are balanced.
29 Nov 2015, 18:30 PM
#53
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Posts: 2307 | Subs: 4
I love stealing this AT gun as axis because it wrecks soviet and american tanks which it can pen reliably.
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29 Nov 2015, 19:53 PM
#54
Posts: 758
I love stealing this AT gun as axis because it wrecks soviet and american tanks which it can pen reliably.
why the hell do axis do that when they have AT weapons better the than 57? it just doesn't make sense...
29 Nov 2015, 20:00 PM
#55
8 Posts: 2470
I love stealing this AT gun as axis because it wrecks soviet and american tanks which it can pen reliably.
and ironically the same is true with the pak in the opposite direction. feels like the AT guns were given to the wrong factions.
29 Nov 2015, 20:01 PM
#56
Posts: 1304 | Subs: 13
why the hell do axis do that when they have AT weapons better the than 57? it just doesn't make sense...
Because the 57mm shoots faster, has wider arc and doesn't need to deal with as high armour vaules when engaging the faster Allied armour? Oh, and its vet 1 ability. Oh, I forgot, having two ATGs is better than one.
And it makes for incentives to steal the other sides equipment, as Arby puts it. Soviets with a 6 man pak? Good luck clearing that.
29 Nov 2015, 20:22 PM
#57
1 Posts: 2307 | Subs: 4
why the hell do axis do that when they have AT weapons better the than 57? it just doesn't make sense...
If it can pen all the shots the 57mm has the highest dps for any AT gun in the game. If you are playing against medium tanks like what USF and SOV field then you will almost guarantee penetration on every shot so it is much better than a pak40. On the flip side the pak 40 is better in allied hands because it can pen the heavy armor of axis tanks better. It's nice this way, it's always better to steal enemy equipment.
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29 Nov 2015, 21:00 PM
#58
Posts: 289
usf dont need new AT gun, currently AT is good
sorry if my eng is not very good
29 Nov 2015, 21:08 PM
#59
Posts: 758
If it can pen all the shots the 57mm has the highest dps for any AT gun in the game. If you are playing against medium tanks like what USF and SOV field then you will almost guarantee penetration on every shot so it is much better than a pak40. On the flip side the pak 40 is better in allied hands because it can pen the heavy armor of axis tanks better. It's nice this way, it's always better to steal enemy equipment.
lol it wud be much better if allies were given AT weapons that were on par with the axis ones that way it will be a level playing field
29 Nov 2015, 21:11 PM
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i like it.
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