Hope for USF AT-Gun?

Jump back to quoted post29 Nov 2015, 20:00 PMNuclear Arbitor

and ironically the same is true with the pak in the opposite direction. feels like the AT guns were given to the wrong factions.

Jump back to quoted post29 Nov 2015, 21:28 PMVuther

The gun is always greater on the other side

Jump back to quoted post30 Nov 2015, 14:39 PMelchino7

Not really. For OKW is a matter of not having the tools (MGs or heavier at guns), but in the case of OH...

SU 82mm mortar
45mm AT gun
Zis gun
Maxim can arguably be better or not (also micro)
UKF AT gun (if we don't consider vet ability)

Jump back to quoted post29 Nov 2015, 15:46 PMDullahan

Personally I care more about factions having uniaue playstyles and tools than I do about accurate representation.

I feel like the 6lber was lazy as shit in comparison to how well the other AT guns are balanced.

Jump back to quoted post30 Nov 2015, 19:12 PM__deleted__

Zis = pak just to tell you that not only british at gun have almost identical stats of german

Also i think all at guns are unique.

Zis - barrage
Pak - stunshot
raketen - can be placed in building , can cloak , can retreat in exchange of 10 range
USA at gun - faster ROF , 70 range , low pen
British - sprint

Jump back to quoted post1 Dec 2015, 01:49 AMArclyte

the way people are talking here, you'd think the 57mm was the best AT gun ever and you'd see multiple being built every game

Except it isn't, and you don't

Jump back to quoted post1 Dec 2015, 01:49 AMArclyte

the way people are talking here, you'd think the 57mm was the best AT gun ever and you'd see multiple being built every game

Except it isn't, and you don't

Jump back to quoted post30 Nov 2015, 23:42 PMDullahan

Doesn't the Zis have lower rate of fire and penetration? And yeah I agree they're unique (except brit)

Unique abilities isn't enough imo. Imagine if all the infantry were the same but got different vet 1 bonuses. Plus sprint was just about the laziest fuxking thing they could have put on the 6lber.

Jump back to quoted post1 Dec 2015, 15:24 PM__deleted__

Sprint is one of strongest if not strongest.

Jump back to quoted post1 Dec 2015, 17:12 PMDullahan

I just mean in terms of "Hey we copy pasted this ability from the maxim lol" lazy.

Not arguing it doesn't have a use, just that it's rather boring. I think they could have thought of something better.

Jump back to quoted post1 Dec 2015, 17:18 PM__deleted__

Yes because maxim and AT gun are exactly the same units.

And what would you want for this ? Ability that allow tank to fire 10 second turbo and then dont fire half minute ? NO it would be Op because it can kill tank fast.

British are really different to Ostheer. they does not have snare , have different mines , sniper , centuar is no oswind and cromwell is not p4 , they have meatshield tank but does not have tiger type , they lack rocket arty but have emplacements etc. etc. etc.

Brits are different. If you make them more different it would create bigger balance issues

Jump back to quoted post1 Dec 2015, 17:38 PMDullahan

Are you retarded? I said the ability is copy pasted from the maxim. Which it is. The maxim is a weaker machine gun with a shorter set up time but smaller firing arc, an aggressive ability makes sense there. This is the sort of ability that would make sense on the doctrinal light AT gun soviets have. Being weaker, but more aggressive. It's out of place on a pak40 clone.

I would want something tied into hammer/anvil. With hammer it gets the vehicle tracking after hit that vehicles get, with anvil it gets increased range/vision in friendly territory. Like the vickers it wouldn't get a vet 1 active ability but instead each level of vet would provide a pretty big boon. (Maybe vet 3 could get a passive move speed increase?)

It just felt like a lazy choice of ability to me. The whole unit really feels like they had no unique ideas. Copy paste pak 40, give it sprint. Make it cheaper for some reason (?!) The rest of the faction is great and well designed but christ the 6lber is incredibly stale from a design POV.

Jump back to quoted post19 Nov 2015, 08:35 AMvietnamabc

Just change the AP to numbers of shells shot, like the next 5 shot will be APCR, not time based and I'll be happy.

Jump back to quoted post1 Dec 2015, 20:09 PMGhostTX

I'd like that. Nothing more frustrating than spending the muni and only have it get one shot off before the tank backs out.

Jump back to quoted post1 Dec 2015, 18:30 PM__deleted__

Why you must be so ugly only because i told you that none At gun have sprint and it is once of best At gun abilities and it it there mainly because of lack of snare ?