Is there any hope, that the USF AT-Gun gets in line with 6pdr/Zis/PAK ?
It really sucks, that you dont have a reliable AT-Gun...
Relic just have do cmd+c/v the britsh 6pdr, wich is historically the same gun and everything would be fine...
I belieave that one day USF will gets a real AT-Gun...
OR is it just a dream?
Hope for USF AT-Gun?
18 Nov 2015, 17:21 PM
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18 Nov 2015, 17:27 PM
#2
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Thing just needs a cost reduction to the AP rounds (which are of course a necessity once medium tanks hit the field). Constant muni bleed aside, it's in a good place for an excellent vet 1 ability, cheap cost, and fastest average fire-rate (by a bit).
18 Nov 2015, 18:07 PM
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Is there any hope, that the USF AT-Gun gets in line with 6pdr/Zis/PAK ?
It really sucks, that you dont have a reliable AT-Gun...
Relic just have do cmd+c/v the britsh 6pdr, wich is historically the same gun and everything would be fine...
I belieave that one day USF will gets a real AT-Gun...
OR is it just a dream?
when do grens get in line with riflemen/infantry sections?
18 Nov 2015, 18:12 PM
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USF AT gun has the fastest fire-rate of all AT guns, what else does it need?
18 Nov 2015, 18:21 PM
#5
Posts: 363
USF AT gun has the fastest fire-rate of all AT guns, what else does it need?
USF AT gun is the fastest
USF ATG
Reken
Pak 40
6 Punder
Ziss (the Slowest)
18 Nov 2015, 18:23 PM
#6
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it has fastest rate of fire. if you use AP, its penetration is good with high ROF.
18 Nov 2015, 18:25 PM
#7
Posts: 1384
The USF AT gun is fine.
Fastest rate of fire, use the AP ability. Also has crazy vision range with vet 1.
It's actually pretty awesome.
Fastest rate of fire, use the AP ability. Also has crazy vision range with vet 1.
It's actually pretty awesome.
18 Nov 2015, 19:11 PM
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Biggest cone, good rate of fire and take aim gives you 70 range. You can't have everything, especially for 270 mp. For a KT you can get a Jackson out, just like other factions need tank destroyers for high armour targets.
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18 Nov 2015, 19:18 PM
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USF AT gun has the fastest fire-rate of all AT guns, what else does it need?
It need penetration.
And fastes AT gun is PAK 40 , or it got bufed?
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18 Nov 2015, 19:40 PM
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It doesn't matter about having a large cone or high ROF, if it never penetrates most of the time and you have to used a munitions ability for it to be decent. What are the stats for the ap rounds any way?
18 Nov 2015, 19:45 PM
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They should atleast remove cooldown for the AP shells. Nothing worse then having it run out vs a heavy then being left with an AT gun that can't do shit. Maybe just a tad bit more base pen, but not much.
Way too many people don't make use of the AP shells enough though. I even see pro tourney players neglecting to use it.
Way too many people don't make use of the AP shells enough though. I even see pro tourney players neglecting to use it.
19 Nov 2015, 02:18 AM
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A slight tweak in penetration would be nice imo.
Atm their shots bounce quite often but are immensely effective when fired from the sides.
Atm their shots bounce quite often but are immensely effective when fired from the sides.
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19 Nov 2015, 02:29 AM
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It doesn't matter about having a large cone or high ROF, if it never penetrates most of the time and you have to used a munitions ability for it to be decent. What are the stats for the ap rounds any way?
1.5X penetration (115/125/140 -> 172.5/187.5/210)
19 Nov 2015, 02:45 AM
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They should atleast remove cooldown for the AP shells. Nothing worse then having it run out vs a heavy then being left with an AT gun that can't do shit. Maybe just a tad bit more base pen, but not much.
Way too many people don't make use of the AP shells enough though. I even see pro tourney players neglecting to use it.
Yeah, any problems with it are entirely the AP shells. The rest is all good points, aside from the 4-man squad of which it has a vet ability that can reduce that flaw. The poor pen without the shells is justified by its low cost.
1.5X penetration (115/125/140 -> 172.5/187.5/210)
For comparison:
ZiS-3, 180/190/200
Pak 40, 190/200/210
Raketenwerfer, 180/190/200
6-Pounder, same as Pak 40
So it's reasonably within the same range of a Raketen's DPS for the duration though the 57mm's accuracy is worse (unless you're crazy enough to manage to put it at close-range to invalidate that and give it 10 more pen), slightly worse pen traded off with fire-rate. The fire-rate's higher enough that it's probably flat-out better than a ZiS-3 for the duration.
19 Nov 2015, 08:35 AM
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Just change the AP to numbers of shells shot, like the next 5 shot will be APCR, not time based and I'll be happy.
19 Nov 2015, 09:21 AM
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The USF AT gun is slow
19 Nov 2015, 10:47 AM
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So it's reasonably within the same range of a Raketen's DPS for the duration though the 57mm's accuracy is worse (unless you're crazy enough to manage to put it at close-range to invalidate that and give it 10 more pen), slightly worse pen traded off with fire-rate. The fire-rate's higher enough that it's probably flat-out better than a ZiS-3 for the duration.
+ has a higher range than raketen
19 Nov 2015, 11:07 AM
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+ has a higher range than raketen
Wich use has a high RoF and range, when this gun never penetrates? It is pointless
19 Nov 2015, 11:48 AM
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Wich use has a high RoF and range, when this gun never penetrates? It is pointless
when do grens get in line with riflemen/infantry sections?
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19 Nov 2015, 12:01 PM
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