Why does Brit Arty Commander require LOS now?
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As far as I can tell, this 100 munitions strike calls the base howitzers to barrage the exact same way the non-doctrinal Infantry Section 45 munitions strike does.
The utility of the ability was that it didn't require line of sight...if you saw Axis units massing, you could call it down to apply pressure. It could be used in conjunction with the Valentine to spot units and bombard them through the FOW.
Now that this ability requires LOS, there is almost no reason to use it. You need a spotter to use it, and the Brits most ubiquitous spotting unit (the Infantry Section) can throw a colored smoke grenade that summons the arty at less than half cost.
Who thought this change was a good idea, and why was it done?
If someone at Relic thought the ability was OP, it would've been better to increase its muni cost, not completely neuter its utility.
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I might be wrong, but doesn't the Artillery Regiment ability fire half as many shells as the Infantry Section ability?
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http://community.companyofheroes.com/forum/company-of-heroes-2/company-of-heroes-2-general-discussion/67-coh-2-changelog?p=228335#post228335
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better question: why are anti-everything skillplanes and crocodile in the same commander?
same reason wehrmacht have skillplanes and tiger in same doc
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If it was deliberate it removed one of very few options for dealing with the scourge of the ISG.
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Has that one finally gotten a LOS requirement?
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The one OP is talking, was essentially a 100 muni version of the Section Barrage that could be dropped anywhere. It was well balanced for the price, due to how absurdly bad the barrage can be. That seems to also require LOS now, which is maing it horribly munitions inefficient. (It's called Co-ordinated Fire Operation, btw)
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As far as I can tell, this 100 munitions strike calls the base howitzers to barrage the exact same way the non-doctrinal Infantry Section 45 munitions strike does.
Wrong, doctrinal 100 muni strike fires LESS shells then 45 muni IS one.
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Wrong, doctrinal 100 muni strike fires LESS shells then 45 muni IS one.
oh... really??????? holy relic.
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btw the thread title is kinda hilarious becaues every offmap in this game needs LoS, you should rather ask why brits didnt need LoS before that
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buff the offmap and keep its LOS requirement. its not fun gameplay wise to have offmaps in fog of war, you just cant be everywhere on the map to see the red smoke.
btw the thread title is kinda hilarious becaues every offmap in this game needs LoS, you should rather ask why brits didnt need LoS before that
technically not true. there are a handful of abilities, like recon planes, assault barrage, and the suppression/jaeger drop that do not require los. the latter two target points instead of the ground though.
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technically not true. there are a handful of abilities, like recon planes, assault barrage, and the suppression/jaeger drop that do not require los. the latter two target points instead of the ground though.
sorry i meant offmap arty. my bad. is there another offmap arty without LoS requirement?
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sorry i meant offmap arty. my bad. is there another offmap arty without LoS requirement?
well assault artillery is technically artillery but i think that's debatable. i can't think of anything else though.
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One of the principals of the british army, is its supposed to be a small elite army, backed up closely by strong supporting abilities.. as that is what Britain was good at in the war.
There should be a reason to use the doctrine arty over the IS or Sniper one though, if it called the same number of shells, that would be fine IMO.
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