King Tiger

Jump back to quoted post8 Nov 2015, 20:52 PMAchtAchter

I don't build KT's and here are the reasons why:

>too much resources concentrated on a single unit. Lose the unit, lose the complete investment and lose the game
>compared to the input, the output is too small dps & HP wise
>to slow, good players will just play around it or kite it to death
>takes ages to vet and the vet it gets is horrible

I'd say, its a good unit in 3vs3+ games but then again its 3vs3

If you want to buff it, it needs to be limited so 3vs3+ heroes wont cry

Jump back to quoted post8 Nov 2015, 19:30 PMausterlitz

Armor buff will again create RNG problems with bouncing.I feel better option will be to increase speed modestly and give it 5 more range to 50.
Most of the time i feel king tiger can't even shoot back due to poor gun range and shit speed and is killed without firing a single shot in retaliation(OKW lacking 60 armor pak AT gun,and huge fuel cost usually means no supporting JP4).
Its speed also means it can't escape at all from bombing runs and is usually destroyed/near destroyed.

Jump back to quoted post8 Nov 2015, 21:01 PMNabarxos

armor is the way to go.

range will just destroy allied TD(namely jacksons)

armor changes along with vet rework will make it worthwhile

Jump back to quoted post8 Nov 2015, 21:06 PMausterlitz

Armor is the alternative solution,but it will be unpopular.

Jump back to quoted post8 Nov 2015, 21:41 PMdasheepeh

austerlitz pls make a single allied unit underpowered thread for diversitys sake

Jump back to quoted post8 Nov 2015, 21:45 PMSpaceHamster

Fix spearhead so it isn't a downgrade, that's the only buff I want.

Jump back to quoted post8 Nov 2015, 22:22 PMTaurusBully

On a 1v1 game where i cut must of USF fuel, 3 wolverines were able to run over a lot of troops and kill my KT.

And it was not unsupported.

Jump back to quoted post8 Nov 2015, 17:08 PMausterlitz

Main problems with this tank -
Far too costly for its effect.
Way too slow.
Main gun range very low combiend with speed can be kited all day without being able to fight back.
Armor nerf,plus allied tank penetration buff(or new brit tanks),alpha dmg allied 60 range tank destroyers and tulip and bombing runs make it often easily killed.
Bad veterancy(especially vet 3 crap) and insane vet requirements.

Overall tank often feels like a liability and unlike in coh1 where despite its disadvantages tank had a visible shock effect its no longer the case.

Solution -
Limit tank to 1 at a time.
Increase range from 45 to 50 to allow it to fight back better.(best tank gun of war with this?)
Modest increase in speed (in reality was faster than stug and panzer4)
Adjust veterancy,especially vet 3.
Nerf rear armor a bit.

Jump back to quoted post9 Nov 2015, 15:19 PMKreatiir

So many people just rush it forward cause hey, it's a KT and it can kill everything.

False.

I think it's a L2P issue here and I don't say that often.

Jump back to quoted post9 Nov 2015, 15:47 PMSkabinsk

Are you guys insane? The KT is amazing and perfect the way it is. It is not an assaulting tank. It's a defensive and holding ground vehicle that almost one shots infantry. I love the KT. Due to its speed, you use it to protect and SUPPORT your army. Not be the one man army. The KT even fights AT guns by itself and can one two shot them.