lmg should be limited to one per squad

Jump back to quoted post8 Nov 2015, 14:18 PMtenid

I don't see any reason why axis squads (i.e. grenadiers) should get 2 lmgs considering their other utility.

Jump back to quoted post8 Nov 2015, 15:08 PMStorm267

while I dont think grenadiers should get two lmgs. Please explain what this other utility is. Because it sounds like that utility you're talking about outweighs the utility of the allied squad (i.e riflemen).

Jump back to quoted post8 Nov 2015, 15:09 PMKatitof

I think you could compare total fuel investment of allied infantry to that you need to pay as a side tech for grens to unlock fausts, nades and lmgs.

Jump back to quoted post8 Nov 2015, 15:23 PMtenid

Well, looking at grenadiers in particular largely from a brit perspective.

You have the panzerfaust, which is enough to counter or mitigate brit vehicles until medium armour. Even end game this makes grens significant when using armour since a broken engine can spell death by pak 40 pretty easily. To be any sort of threat to armour an infantry section has to take a PIAT, thus giving up one of the weapon slots.

There's the rifle nade, which if nothing else means having to watch every engagement with grens carefully. An infantry section will rarely do anything other than find cover to shoot from since the grenades generally aren't worth the teching costs. The rifle nade also gives limited utility against MGs.

Finally you also get your LMG delivered on field. Combine that with a halftrack for reenforcement and you have a pretty potent early/mid game combo.

Jump back to quoted post8 Nov 2015, 15:32 PM__deleted__

While we are discussing about lmgs conscripts cry in corner.

Give them one Dp28 for 40 munny after russian player build 4th tier (whitch is out of meta right now a lot)

Jump back to quoted post8 Nov 2015, 13:42 PMThunderhun

Dual m1919/Bar REs

Jump back to quoted post8 Nov 2015, 15:43 PMF1sh

Bad idea, you want to destroy USF's strongpoint?

Jump back to quoted post8 Nov 2015, 13:42 PMThunderhun

Dual m1919/Bar REs

Jump back to quoted post8 Nov 2015, 15:23 PMtenid

Well, looking at grenadiers in particular largely from a brit perspective.

You have the panzerfaust, which is enough to counter or mitigate brit vehicles until medium armour. Even end game this makes grens significant when using armour since a broken engine can spell death by pak 40 pretty easily. To be any sort of threat to armour an infantry section has to take a PIAT, thus giving up one of the weapon slots.

There's the rifle nade, which if nothing else means having to watch every engagement with grens carefully. An infantry section will rarely do anything other than find cover to shoot from since the grenades generally aren't worth the teching costs. The rifle nade also gives limited utility against MGs.

Finally you also get your LMG delivered on field. Combine that with a halftrack for reenforcement and you have a pretty potent early/mid game combo.

Jump back to quoted post9 Nov 2015, 00:23 AMausterlitz

You can delete Gren Riflenade anyday.Faust is nowhere near what it was.

Jump back to quoted post9 Nov 2015, 01:42 AMtenid

The rifle nade works well with how grens (normally) work - at long range. The mills bomb works counter to how tommies normally work.

The whole reason for two weapon slots on allied inf is to give them a choice of anti inf specialization, anti tank specialization or a mix of both. It's just that anti inf is usually the better choice. If tommies were limited to either a PIAT or a bren, I'd never take the PIAT, not that it would change much...