This unit is OP now in terms of cost-effectiveness.Its massive pen buff allowed it to replace su-85 to a large extent..it is DIRT cheap,has 60 range (more than stug ).But worst of all is that it counters its counters.Anti-tank guns are a common counter to tank destroyers,but often this unit will barrage out of darkness.
Barrage frequency is high.
Barrage costs NOTHING,unlike zis.
Either -
1.Increase cost of unit
or
2.Munition price for barrage
or
3.Range to 50
or
4.Penetration reduction(pz 4 has 110 penetration)
In 2 vs 2 soviet spam it every game.
Nerf su-76 barrage
3 Nov 2015, 12:35 PM
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3 Nov 2015, 12:43 PM
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they are kinda fast and mobile too, have a nice pathing/turn very well
3 Nov 2015, 12:45 PM
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only idiot can say it imo. make trash worse. its not gonna happen. and it wont help you any way since normal players dont use su76 ussualy.
barrage range to 50
barrage range to 50
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3 Nov 2015, 12:48 PM
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austerlitz pls..... this unit was utterly trash before he gets some love. The barrage and su76 itself are fine.
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3 Nov 2015, 12:56 PM
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The barrage it's fine. Let's not overreact over it.
BeefSurge wrote:
A lot of people have an image of how they want a faction to play, leading to problems. This is why you have people complaining about lack of Soviet bunkers, why T34/76 sucks, why Cons don't scale, Grens don't get normal grenades, Muricans don't get heavy tank, OKW laser weapons and Die Glock Death Bell, etc.
A lot of people have an image of how they want a faction to play, leading to problems. This is why you have people complaining about lack of Soviet bunkers, why T34/76 sucks, why Cons don't scale, Grens don't get normal grenades, Muricans don't get heavy tank, OKW laser weapons and Die Glock Death Bell, etc.
3 Nov 2015, 13:02 PM
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Barrage from min range can one shot 4 man squads consistently.
Disagree. Pathing and turn rate is quite meh.
they are kinda fast and mobile too, have a nice pathing/turn very well
Disagree. Pathing and turn rate is quite meh.
3 Nov 2015, 13:21 PM
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That su-76 overperforms for cost i think is known by now.When they buffed it range should hav been reduced or barrage given a cost.
3 Nov 2015, 13:49 PM
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Its like saying pzwerfer is OP now. Both units were trash and both got slight buff. Now both are quite ok but very cumbersome to use and su76 is also either very micro intensive or dead. If it got any of the nerfs you propose it should also get more health and/or much faster rotation.
3 Nov 2015, 14:13 PM
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Hhhmm what was the last time SU-76 was OP before it got its recent buff?, because i dont remember....unless i think about CPT.Price getting like 10 of them and unleashing hell, with a massive artillery bombardment
3 Nov 2015, 14:20 PM
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The barrage it's fine. Let's not overreact over it.
Coming from this german fanboy, you know it must be true.
3 Nov 2015, 15:04 PM
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Barrage needs and ammo cost, it's ridiculous that it's free.
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3 Nov 2015, 15:57 PM
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Coming from this german fanboy, you know it must be true.
True. It's fine, move along
First off all. Tripwire so gud, 10 ammo for a whole dead squad ? + sight.
Vehicle capture point can win games, blitzkrieg save a tank. Fair Deal i think
3 Nov 2015, 16:08 PM
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Ammo cost for SU-76 barrage would double its damage to 240 and give it 1000 penetration Kreygasm
3 Nov 2015, 16:34 PM
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It should had -20pen across the board and it would be fine.
It been a replacement to the Su85 is a matter of T4 been a tad expensive for the performance of the units.
It been a replacement to the Su85 is a matter of T4 been a tad expensive for the performance of the units.
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And if they were, you were playing dishonorably,
And if you weren't, you were playing without skill,
And if you were, it's not fun to play that way,
And if it is, you only care about winning.
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And if they were, you were playing dishonorably,
And if you weren't, you were playing without skill,
And if you were, it's not fun to play that way,
And if it is, you only care about winning.
Bible of Scrublord, Psalt 3:16.
3 Nov 2015, 16:48 PM
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su76 is fine. the barrage is highly inaccurate, unless you are using it from medium to close range.
Axis doesn't have the best AT options in the game
3 Nov 2015, 17:03 PM
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Permanently BannedImo its fine, only its can cost ammo if thay buff barrage. In olds patch and alpha i play with partisans and use doc ability to find opponent units to shoot tham from su-76 and i kill so many units MVGame.
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3 Nov 2015, 17:06 PM
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For the barrage to work you have to be point blank, with new damage models to buildings it will not displace MG's or infantry in buildings either. Its highly vulnerable to infantry based AT, AT guns, has low Armour/HP and no turret. Non Issue.
3 Nov 2015, 17:15 PM
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Forever alone 
3 Nov 2015, 17:30 PM
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It should had -20pen across the board and it would be fine.
It been a replacement to the Su85 is a matter of T4 been a tad expensive for the performance of the units.
That says more about the state of T4 tbh.
Maybe it's 'cause the Axis players aren't a bunch of forum crybabies, and they keep their cool and fight the uphill battle, unlike some of their "allied" counterparts.
3 Nov 2015, 19:47 PM
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Coming from this german fanboy, you know it must be true.
Fanboy or not I am objective. Period. And I play all factions. Except for brits wich I didn't buy.
BeefSurge wrote:
A lot of people have an image of how they want a faction to play, leading to problems. This is why you have people complaining about lack of Soviet bunkers, why T34/76 sucks, why Cons don't scale, Grens don't get normal grenades, Muricans don't get heavy tank, OKW laser weapons and Die Glock Death Bell, etc.
A lot of people have an image of how they want a faction to play, leading to problems. This is why you have people complaining about lack of Soviet bunkers, why T34/76 sucks, why Cons don't scale, Grens don't get normal grenades, Muricans don't get heavy tank, OKW laser weapons and Die Glock Death Bell, etc.
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