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Nerf su-76 barrage

3 Nov 2015, 12:35 PM
#1
avatar of austerlitz

Posts: 1705

This unit is OP now in terms of cost-effectiveness.Its massive pen buff allowed it to replace su-85 to a large extent..it is DIRT cheap,has 60 range (more than stug ).But worst of all is that it counters its counters.Anti-tank guns are a common counter to tank destroyers,but often this unit will barrage out of darkness.
Barrage frequency is high.
Barrage costs NOTHING,unlike zis.

Either -
1.Increase cost of unit
or
2.Munition price for barrage
or
3.Range to 50
or
4.Penetration reduction(pz 4 has 110 penetration)

In 2 vs 2 soviet spam it every game.
3 Nov 2015, 12:43 PM
#2
avatar of Bananenheld

Posts: 1593 | Subs: 1

they are kinda fast and mobile too, have a nice pathing/turn very well
aaa
3 Nov 2015, 12:45 PM
#3
avatar of aaa

Posts: 1487

only idiot can say it imo. make trash worse. its not gonna happen. and it wont help you any way since normal players dont use su76 ussualy.

barrage range to 50 :loco:
3 Nov 2015, 12:48 PM
#4
avatar of MoerserKarL
Donator 22

Posts: 1108

austerlitz pls..... this unit was utterly trash before he gets some love. The barrage and su76 itself are fine.
3 Nov 2015, 12:56 PM
#5
avatar of JohnnyB

Posts: 2396 | Subs: 1

The barrage it's fine. Let's not overreact over it.
3 Nov 2015, 13:02 PM
#6
avatar of ElSlayer

Posts: 1605 | Subs: 1

Barrage from min range can one shot 4 man squads consistently.

they are kinda fast and mobile too, have a nice pathing/turn very well

Disagree. Pathing and turn rate is quite meh.
3 Nov 2015, 13:21 PM
#7
avatar of austerlitz

Posts: 1705

That su-76 overperforms for cost i think is known by now.When they buffed it range should hav been reduced or barrage given a cost.
3 Nov 2015, 13:49 PM
#8
avatar of ferwiner
Donator 11

Posts: 2885

Its like saying pzwerfer is OP now. Both units were trash and both got slight buff. Now both are quite ok but very cumbersome to use and su76 is also either very micro intensive or dead. If it got any of the nerfs you propose it should also get more health and/or much faster rotation.
3 Nov 2015, 14:13 PM
#9
avatar of ATCF
Donator 33

Posts: 587

Hhhmm what was the last time SU-76 was OP before it got its recent buff?, because i dont remember....unless i think about CPT.Price getting like 10 of them and unleashing hell, with a massive artillery bombardment
3 Nov 2015, 14:20 PM
#10
avatar of Skabinsk

Posts: 238

The barrage it's fine. Let's not overreact over it.


Coming from this german fanboy, you know it must be true. :thumbsup:
3 Nov 2015, 15:04 PM
#11
avatar of Ace of Swords

Posts: 219

Barrage needs and ammo cost, it's ridiculous that it's free.
3 Nov 2015, 15:57 PM
#12
avatar of UGBEAR

Posts: 954



Coming from this german fanboy, you know it must be true. :thumbsup:


True. It's fine, move along
3 Nov 2015, 16:08 PM
#13
avatar of ATCF
Donator 33

Posts: 587

Ammo cost for SU-76 barrage would double its damage to 240 and give it 1000 penetration Kreygasm
3 Nov 2015, 16:34 PM
#14
avatar of elchino7
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Posts: 8154 | Subs: 2

It should had -20pen across the board and it would be fine.

It been a replacement to the Su85 is a matter of T4 been a tad expensive for the performance of the units.
3 Nov 2015, 16:48 PM
#15
avatar of NinjaWJ

Posts: 2070

su76 is fine. the barrage is highly inaccurate, unless you are using it from medium to close range.
3 Nov 2015, 17:03 PM
#16
avatar of vasa1719

Posts: 2635 | Subs: 4

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Imo its fine, only its can cost ammo if thay buff barrage. In olds patch and alpha i play with partisans and use doc ability to find opponent units to shoot tham from su-76 and i kill so many units MVGame.
3 Nov 2015, 17:06 PM
#17
avatar of Switzerland
Donator 33

Posts: 545

For the barrage to work you have to be point blank, with new damage models to buildings it will not displace MG's or infantry in buildings either. Its highly vulnerable to infantry based AT, AT guns, has low Armour/HP and no turret. Non Issue.
Phy
3 Nov 2015, 17:15 PM
#18
avatar of Phy

Posts: 509 | Subs: 1

3 Nov 2015, 17:30 PM
#19
avatar of Katitof

Posts: 17914 | Subs: 8

It should had -20pen across the board and it would be fine.

It been a replacement to the Su85 is a matter of T4 been a tad expensive for the performance of the units.

That says more about the state of T4 tbh.
3 Nov 2015, 19:47 PM
#20
avatar of JohnnyB

Posts: 2396 | Subs: 1



Coming from this german fanboy, you know it must be true. :thumbsup:


Fanboy or not I am objective. Period. And I play all factions. Except for brits wich I didn't buy.
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