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Dreadbot
21 Oct 2015, 18:44 PM
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jump backJump back to quoted post21 Oct 2015, 18:41 PMBurts

I think thats a cool way to balance it given how USF stresses as a faction mobility and firepower, not durability.

IRL it was basically a more armoured tiger I. That would be helluva boring in game since we already have that with IS-2/tiger...


Well I don't think that would be boring, but I suppose that's the more subjective side of things. I just think they went a bit too far with the mobility thing - to the point of being unintuitive (it's about the same size as those other heavy tanks, after all).
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Iron Emperor
21 Oct 2015, 18:45 PM
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jump backJump back to quoted post21 Oct 2015, 18:08 PMKisiel
Ranger's only ability will be grenade. No smoke/sprint/demo.




When you have to pay fuel to research nades, you can load them into tanks as well :snfPeter:


also only 4 thompsons not 5? like wtf why not 5?
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Omega_Warrior
21 Oct 2015, 18:45 PM
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jump backJump back to quoted post21 Oct 2015, 18:41 PMBurts


IRL it was basically a more armoured tiger I. That would be helluva boring in game since we already have that with IS-2/tiger...

They said it had more armor then a Tiger in-game. It's armor is in between the tiger and panther.
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Kisiel
21 Oct 2015, 18:57 PM
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jump backJump back to quoted post21 Oct 2015, 18:45 PMIron Emperor
also only 4 thompsons not 5? like wtf why not 5?

Brad said they would have too much dps with 5 Thompsons.
Also, they had a smoke nade but it got removed since it made them too durable.



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21 Oct 2015, 19:04 PM
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That reasoning is kind of arbitrary though, since they could just as easily have used a target size of 0.9 and kept the smoke nade. And had 5 Thompsons but make them do 25% less DPS.
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21 Oct 2015, 19:06 PM
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4 weapons slots but no abilities. Seems kinda plain.
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21 Oct 2015, 19:06 PM
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jump backJump back to quoted post21 Oct 2015, 18:45 PMOmega_Warrior

They said it had more armor then a Tiger in-game. It's armor is in between the tiger and panther.


Pershing will have 300 armor
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SpaceHamster
21 Oct 2015, 19:18 PM
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Still wondering how much of an accuracy bonus does combined arms give to infantry near tanks.

If it's anywhere near the level of heroic charge/command aura for brits though...
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21 Oct 2015, 19:51 PM
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21 Oct 2015, 20:08 PM
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21 Oct 2015, 20:59 PM
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So I can park infantry next to an M36, pop 100 ammo and it gets increased range + sight? :snfCHVGame:
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21 Oct 2015, 21:03 PM
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Ah more Tanks hard countering their hardcounter by throwing a grenade at them that is cooked (maximum of one second fuse). Good job Relic, this gonna be hella fun
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21 Oct 2015, 21:44 PM
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jump backJump back to quoted post21 Oct 2015, 21:03 PMAngryKitten465
Ah more Tanks hard countering their hardcounter by throwing a grenade at them that is cooked (maximum of one second fuse). Good job Relic, this gonna be hella fun


Just run up to the pershing into its grenade range and panzerfaust it :snfPeter:
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Kisiel
21 Oct 2015, 22:02 PM
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I hope that 'Off Map Smoke Barrage' is a placeholder.
'Off Map' in ability name? What an immersion breaker :foreveralone:
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21 Oct 2015, 22:03 PM
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jump backJump back to quoted post21 Oct 2015, 18:03 PMFichtenMoped
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Firesparks
21 Oct 2015, 22:10 PM
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jump backJump back to quoted post21 Oct 2015, 18:02 PMDreadbot
I'm curious why they decided to go for high mobility on a tank which historically had very poor mobility (but Tiger-esque durability).


slower than a pziv is high mobility now?


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Rollo
21 Oct 2015, 22:15 PM
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jump backJump back to quoted post21 Oct 2015, 18:39 PMOmega_Warrior
Brad said Rangers had 4 weapon slots. That means you could put 4x bars/zooks on them too.


So four man BAR elite infantry with a doctrinal accuracy boost.

Sounds like an OP doctrine waiting to happen
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braciszek
21 Oct 2015, 22:22 PM
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jump backJump back to quoted post21 Oct 2015, 22:15 PMRollo


So four man BAR elite infantry with a doctrinal accuracy boost.

Sounds like an OP doctrine waiting to happen


Sounds like an expensive piñata which shames old guards waiting to happen. If you think spending 240 munitions on one squad is a good idea...

Good accuracy or not, BAR is still an assault rifle and will beaten by long range weapons...
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21 Oct 2015, 22:23 PM
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jump backJump back to quoted post21 Oct 2015, 22:15 PMRollo


So four man BAR elite infantry with a doctrinal accuracy boost.

Sounds like an OP doctrine waiting to happen


Drop 4 vickers from brit truck, 4 LMG elite infantry with doctrinal accuracy boost.
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Firesparks
21 Oct 2015, 22:29 PM
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jump backJump back to quoted post21 Oct 2015, 22:23 PMCanaris


Drop 4 vickers from brit truck, 4 LMG elite infantry with doctrinal accuracy boost.


lmg's need to get a slot size increase to 2. this will limit one lmg per squad regardless of source.


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