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Katysha opinion (Buff,nerfs,changes)

20 Oct 2015, 08:49 AM
#21
avatar of Leepriest

Posts: 179

Worst artillery pieces in the game?
Sexton, 25 pounders<<<<<<<<<<<Katyusha, B4<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<Maultier, Stuka zu Fuß, static howies.

I raised a thread about the 25 pounders but relic really doesnt listen at all.
20 Oct 2015, 09:00 AM
#22
avatar of Kreatiir

Posts: 2819

leave the katy as it is

its fine


+1
20 Oct 2015, 09:23 AM
#23
avatar of AngryKitten465

Posts: 473

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They haven't changed it for a long time now. It was fine until the Panzerwerfer got buffed, now it suddenly underperforms.

If anything should be changed, it should be the interval between barrages. Should fire two large barrages instead of the multiple ones now. Also move in closer to get a nice dense shot off.
20 Oct 2015, 09:58 AM
#24
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Was it ninja nerfed ? Or the problem is the timing of arrival ?


Katushya

The previous scatter was set fairly low which gave units little chance to doge any of the rockets.
Creeping barrage scatter increased from 2.5 to 5.5 September 17th Patch Notes

Katushya:
Precision Strike Removed
Added Creeping Barrage as Vet 1 ability June 23rd Update


20 Oct 2015, 09:58 AM
#25
avatar of Jadek

Posts: 80

No, Katusha isn't fine at all. Maybe a ninja change in september.

-> Katushya

The previous scatter was set fairly low which gave units little chance to doge any of the rockets.

Creeping barrage scatter increased from 2.5 to 5.5

Because, since this update, my rockets never touch anything. It was a wipe machine before, now a waste of ressources.

Edit: Shame on me, didn't see above post.
20 Oct 2015, 10:06 AM
#26
avatar of Looney
Patrion 14

Posts: 444

Werfer sometimes destroys full health support weapons :(

Katushya is now only lethal when it's vetted up imo. As it should be.
20 Oct 2015, 10:11 AM
#27
avatar of RedT3rror

Posts: 747 | Subs: 2

They haven't changed it for a long time now. It was fine until the Panzerwerfer got buffed, now it suddenly underperforms.


It doesn't underperform suddenly. It's in a bad spot since the change of russian tier system. Now, it comes out later and is about 55 fuel more expensive to tech. In the past, rushing a katyusha was a good counter against blobs due to it's cost effiency and early arrival.
20 Oct 2015, 10:29 AM
#28
avatar of Diomedes

Posts: 103



Katushya

The previous scatter was set fairly low which gave units little chance to doge any of the rockets.
Creeping barrage scatter increased from 2.5 to 5.5 September 17th Patch Notes

Katushya:
Precision Strike Removed
Added Creeping Barrage as Vet 1 ability June 23rd Update




jump backJump back to quoted post20 Oct 2015, 09:58 AMJadek
No, Katusha isn't fine at all. Maybe a ninja change in september.

-> Katushya

The previous scatter was set fairly low which gave units little chance to doge any of the rockets.

Creeping barrage scatter increased from 2.5 to 5.5

Because, since this update, my rockets never touch anything. It was a wipe machine before, now a waste of ressources.

Edit: Shame on me, didn't see above post.



Creeping barrage is the vet 1 ability. Normal barrage wasn't changed.
20 Oct 2015, 10:35 AM
#29
avatar of Jadek

Posts: 80






Creeping barrage is the vet 1 ability. Normal barrage wasn't changed.


No, Katusha isn't fine at all. Maybe a ninja change in september.
20 Oct 2015, 10:45 AM
#30
avatar of Shanka

Posts: 323

I feel like the scatter on creeping barrage was added on the normal barrage, my katys don't hit a single time the center or a least 5 meters near the centers, i don't know if it's just me but Hans on stream got the same issue with katys being inacurrate .:(

Maybe if we can check numbers or it's just my luck who leave me :foreveralone:
20 Oct 2015, 10:47 AM
#31
avatar of AngryKitten465

Posts: 473

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It doesn't underperform suddenly. It's in a bad spot since the change of russian tier system. Now, it comes out later and is about 55 fuel more expensive to tech.


Like every Ostheer t4 unit?
20 Oct 2015, 10:59 AM
#32
avatar of KyleAkira

Posts: 410

Ostheer T4 is fine. Panther, Brummbar, Pwerfer. All of them fulfill the role.
Try Pwerfer vs 2 stacked full health Zis Guns. 2 wipes you will get.
Try Kat vs 2 stacked paks full health. 2-3 models will dead if you are lucky.
@Shanka, I noticed too since september british patch that my Kat regular barrage was changed, patch notes didn't say anything but at 30-aug the kat was doing decent damage and on 2-sept it was crap for me.
20 Oct 2015, 11:43 AM
#33
avatar of vasa1719

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jump backJump back to quoted post20 Oct 2015, 10:45 AMShanka
I feel like the scatter on creeping barrage was added on the normal barrage


I have the same opinion.
All my post are from my feeling of the game and what i see, so i can mistakes (but after patches or werfer buff, i have feeling that somthing are wrong with this unit, hope its not 2 :D).
20 Oct 2015, 11:46 AM
#34
avatar of Pedro_Jedi

Posts: 543

I always get good results with Katiusha. But I make sure that it fires close to the desired target.
20 Oct 2015, 11:59 AM
#35
avatar of KyleAkira

Posts: 410

Close range still have big scatter, and the risk of loosing it is higher. 1 shot and dead.
As far as I can see from your playercard, you haven't faced high level 2v2 axis guys playing turtle mode.
20 Oct 2015, 12:14 PM
#36
avatar of Bananenheld

Posts: 1593 | Subs: 1

Close range still have big scatter, and the risk of loosing it is higher. 1 shot and dead.
As far as I can see from your playercard, you haven't faced high level 2v2 axis guys playing turtle mode.

How can turtle Work if allies have better early-mid game and on par lategame? Dont tell me axis scale better into lategame, that was True a year ago
20 Oct 2015, 12:27 PM
#37
avatar of Blackart

Posts: 344

It was ninja nerfed when Panzerwerfer got a buff, it perform worse now.
20 Oct 2015, 12:48 PM
#38
avatar of Omega_Warrior

Posts: 2561



It doesn't underperform suddenly. It's in a bad spot since the change of russian tier system. Now, it comes out later and is about 55 fuel more expensive to tech. In the past, rushing a katyusha was a good counter against blobs due to it's cost effiency and early arrival.
It doesn't come out later at all in relation to every other factions tech. It actually take less fuel to reach soviet T4 then ostheer T3. Stop acting like the changes delayed soviet medium armor more then other factions, because they didn't.

sov T4 = 165/175
wher T3 = 175
usf Major = 155/165
20 Oct 2015, 13:25 PM
#39
avatar of AchtAchter

Posts: 1604 | Subs: 3

The Normal barrage is untouched, it performs as always. I think due the squad spacing changes, all AOE weapons got indirectly nerfed. I welcome this change because it means less wipes. The katyusha still does what it did all the months before.
However the Panzerwerfer gets buffed and suddenly underperforms, while it's still the longest area of denial weapon and will lead to kills and wipes when your opponent doesn't clean the area.
20 Oct 2015, 13:30 PM
#40
avatar of TAKTCOM

Posts: 275 | Subs: 1

They haven't changed it for a long time now.

Brits Release Ninjas
Nerfed:
...Katyusha...(reduced aoe damage modifiers)
http://www.coh2.org/topic/39437/brits-release-ninjas/page/1#post_id385911
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