5 men commando squad

Jump back to quoted post8 Oct 2015, 07:48 AMUGBEAR

recived accuracy -20% something like most infantry squad do, and no you want to overnerf them

Jump back to quoted post8 Oct 2015, 07:59 AMAngryKitten465

Overnerf? How? Removing gimmick like features isn't nerfing, it is centered around using common sense and a non biased look.

The nerfs are actually towing down the dps and the their cloaking capabilities in combat.

Jump back to quoted post8 Oct 2015, 09:11 AMOZtheWiZARD

Adjust their DPS, tad longer fuse on grenade and they're fine.
There is no need for survivability increase as you should use cloa
ck to engage and disengage combat.

Jump back to quoted post8 Oct 2015, 08:50 AMFiresparks

the commandos are "front loaded". Most of their vets are basically abilities like the smokes and their direct combat veterancy bonus is probably the weakest in the entire game.


it's like the commandos are already vet3 coming out of the glider and you're basically earning vet4 and 5.

Jump back to quoted post8 Oct 2015, 07:56 AMAngryKitten465

This makes no sense, to give them cloak just for the sake of one unit that might be on the field. The cloak in cover is not the problem, the cloak on open ground in the middle of fights or just simply running around the field cloaked is just pure bullshit. It makes them overpowered and you know it.

Jump back to quoted post8 Oct 2015, 07:56 AMAngryKitten465

Ah yes the unfair 1 second grenade is totally justified by claiming the commandos are a "high alpha strike unit". What was I thinking? I totally agree, your commandos should also have at capabilities right of the bat, sounds great. I think I will incorporate this in my OP.

Jump back to quoted post8 Oct 2015, 07:56 AMAngryKitten465

You do realize that this suggestion might actually make things worse? Their ambush bonus applies when they are cloaked, but you seem to forget that they are cloaked 80% of the time. They run around cloaked and can become cloaked just in front of units. This would mean that they constantly deliver an ambush bonus, which would't make a very different situation from the one we have right now. They would still rape units like there is no tomorrow.

Jump back to quoted post8 Oct 2015, 14:41 PMWingZero

Btw Commandos get raped by Obers with STGs updgrade.

Jump back to quoted post8 Oct 2015, 13:03 PMRomeo

they should do a little less damage and the light gammon bomb should have a slightly smaller AoE.

I don't like the idea of a cost increase because plenty of british abilities cost too much and are too strong. Commandos are just one example.

I also don't like the idea of longer fuse time because as a close combat squad they should have a grenade, not a satchel charge.

Jump back to quoted post8 Oct 2015, 12:40 PMCadianGuardsman

They only cloak in cover, hyperbole plis.

Jump back to quoted post8 Oct 2015, 12:40 PMCadianGuardsman

Your use of irony and sarcasm in place of logical argument is telling of your plight.

Jump back to quoted post8 Oct 2015, 12:40 PMCadianGuardsman

>Make it so they only cloak in cover... then they'll be cloaked 40% of the time.

Jump back to quoted post8 Oct 2015, 15:25 PMAngryKitten465

What do you think of removing the cloak for movement?

Jump back to quoted post8 Oct 2015, 15:38 PMRomeo

I think that if commandos receive any other nerfs, they will definitely need their stealth as it is to perform for their cost. Otherwise they will have to sit idle in cover hoping an enemy walks into them, rather than stealthing around the battlefield looking for important targets. I find that to be the most fun and unique aspect of the squad, so it would be a shame to remove that if it weren't absolutely necessary.

Jump back to quoted post8 Oct 2015, 16:03 PMFlying Dustbin

StG Obers are probably the best counter to Commandos with their 25 detection range and good mid and close DPS, meaning they'll usually win if they stumble upon some Commandos holding fire.

Jump back to quoted post8 Oct 2015, 15:40 PMAngryKitten465

I see. But you do realize that that is just a tad bit unfair that they can run around cloaked and recloak just in front of units even when in combat? If so, obers are expensive as well and come without their specialist weapons, perhaps we could implement some cloaking there too, for ambush purposes. After all, we want balance!