Login

russian armor

Churchills HP (1400-1600) over the top

28 Sep 2015, 12:27 PM
#1
avatar of Chet

Posts: 46

Both the croc/avre and stock Churchill seem to have too much health.

The HP of other tanks was reduced to 1280 max, now a 150 fuel unit can have 1600, seems rather IMBA.

Noticing it taking almost every AT unit on the map to take one of these out, then same situation again when another is built.

Overall, just plain silly amounts of HP
28 Sep 2015, 12:32 PM
#2
avatar of Chocoboknight88

Posts: 393

What if the fuel cost was increased to match the Comet (185)? Let not forget too that in the Normal Churchill's case, it's gun sucks compared to real heavy tanks. So I'm not sure decreasing it's health to match other heavies or even matching their cost would be the right approach. The health should make up for the smaller gun.
28 Sep 2015, 12:36 PM
#3
avatar of Aerohank

Posts: 2693 | Subs: 1

Meanwhile, the KV-1 wheeps in the corner.
28 Sep 2015, 12:38 PM
#4
avatar of Qbix

Posts: 254

That's what he does. He tanks. The Crocodile and the AVRE are special and very dangerous, therefore their HP got nerfed already. If you would nerf the normal Churchill's HP, what role would he fill then? And if I would need to spend 185 fuel, I would just get a Comet instead. The normal Churchill does nothing to you that you couldn't do to your opponent as well. His only special trait is the large HP pool that allows him to move through a pak wall with some infantry covered in smoke. That's all he is for and that's what he needs to be.
28 Sep 2015, 12:40 PM
#5
avatar of Iron Emperor

Posts: 1653

Nerf the HP to 1280 or 1080, goddamn tanks are retreating all the goddamn times, even when you outplay them big time...
28 Sep 2015, 12:44 PM
#6
avatar of mycalliope

Posts: 721

mk7 gun doesn't sucks its actually good and the avre and croc just bonkers they should have 800 health they arleady have such high armor
28 Sep 2015, 12:50 PM
#7
avatar of Chocoboknight88

Posts: 393

Well I certainly wouldn't mind the AVRE and especially Croc have Health nerfs to reflecting their diminished armoured appearance. How about these numbers for a health nerf?

Churchill Mk.VII (Non-Doctrine) = 1400 (Health still pretty high)
Churchill AVRE = 1280
Churchill Croc = 1080
28 Sep 2015, 12:50 PM
#8
avatar of Porygon

Posts: 2779

Those are fine.
28 Sep 2015, 12:51 PM
#9
avatar of samich

Posts: 205

800hp... what world do you live in


I think 1280hp for all and maybe less armour for the croc/avre would be fair place to start.

Something needs to be changed but brit late game needs to remain extremely strong unless changes are made to their early game.
28 Sep 2015, 12:52 PM
#10
avatar of Iron Emperor

Posts: 1653

jump backJump back to quoted post28 Sep 2015, 12:50 PMPorygon
Those are fine.


Nop they totally aren't
28 Sep 2015, 12:56 PM
#11
avatar of Chocoboknight88

Posts: 393



Nop they totally aren't

Hmmm??? Don't those numbers more or less match your suggestions?
28 Sep 2015, 13:04 PM
#12
avatar of Iron Emperor

Posts: 1653


Hmmm??? Don't those numbers more or less match your suggestions?


True ^^
28 Sep 2015, 13:10 PM
#13
avatar of Don'tKnow

Posts: 225 | Subs: 1

health decrease to 1280 hp
KV-1 has less frontal armor, less health(800) while costing 145 fuel and the same shitty gun as the t34 76.
Big health pool is not a big deal but they also have 290 frontal armor.
Ad to that a average gun for 150 fuel and you have an overpowering tank.
28 Sep 2015, 13:22 PM
#14
avatar of Arclyte

Posts: 692

Nerf the HP to 1280 or 1080, goddamn tanks are retreating all the goddamn times, even when you outplay them big time...


lol, blitzing in reverse and panzer smoke say hello

axis tanks have been cheating death since launch of vanilla coh2
28 Sep 2015, 13:27 PM
#15
avatar of Iron Emperor

Posts: 1653

It's true that they've smoke indeed, but still lost couple of tanks by ground attack move. So yes it increases it's survivability, but doesn't mean that it survives. Although I agree with your point.
28 Sep 2015, 13:30 PM
#16
avatar of Katitof

Posts: 17914 | Subs: 8

Meanwhile, the KV-1 wheeps in the corner.


Don't worry, relic said on one of last streams that they are looking at performance of KV series in comparison to churchills.
28 Sep 2015, 13:34 PM
#17
avatar of Burts

Posts: 1702

jump backJump back to quoted post28 Sep 2015, 13:30 PMKatitof


Don't worry, relic said on one of last streams that they are looking at performance of KV series in comparison to churchills.



:hansGASM::hansGASM::hansGASM::hansGASM:



Reborn from the ashes of windustry, arise KV-2!!:romeoHype::sibHyena::hansWUT::sibDZ:
28 Sep 2015, 13:37 PM
#18
avatar of Porygon

Posts: 2779



Nop they totally aren't


Lure them into mines and they are fucked. L2P issues I would say.
28 Sep 2015, 13:39 PM
#19
avatar of Flying Dustbin

Posts: 270 | Subs: 1

jump backJump back to quoted post28 Sep 2015, 13:34 PMBurts



:hansGASM::hansGASM::hansGASM::hansGASM:



Reborn from the ashes of windustry, arise KV-2!!:romeoHype::sibHyena::hansWUT::sibDZ:


Nah they're just going to overdo it and make Churchills just as arse as the KV-1, in typical relic fashion.
28 Sep 2015, 13:42 PM
#20
avatar of Nabarxos

Posts: 392

jump backJump back to quoted post28 Sep 2015, 13:37 PMPorygon


Lure them into mines and they are fucked. L2P issues I would say.


THIS ^^^
0 user is browsing this thread:

Ladders Top 10

  • #
    Steam Alias
    W
    L
    %
    Streak
Data provided by Relic Relic Entertainment

Replay highlight

VS
  • U.S. Forces flag cblanco ★
  • The British Forces flag 보드카 중대
  • Oberkommando West flag VonManteuffel
  • Ostheer flag Heartless Jäger
uploaded by XXxxHeartlessxxXX

Board Info

729 users are online: 729 guests
0 post in the last 24h
13 posts in the last week
32 posts in the last month
Registered members: 50082
Welcome our newest member, olybetclub
Most online: 2043 users on 29 Oct 2023, 01:04 AM