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AngryJoe plays Company of Heroes 2: British Forces!

24 Sep 2015, 12:44 PM
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24 Sep 2015, 13:33 PM
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Watched the end of the vid. Their rant about mirco transactions were bang on.
24 Sep 2015, 13:46 PM
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Watched the end of the vid. Their rant about mirco transactions were bang on.


I completely agree
24 Sep 2015, 13:47 PM
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Yep. Effective cost of the British forces if you want all commanders: $25.

I haven't even bought Brits. And probably won't.
24 Sep 2015, 13:59 PM
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Watched the end of the vid. Their rant about mirco transactions were bang on.


And there are people who want coh2 to go free2play and have microtransactions become as important feature as the gameplay itself :sibHyena:

They can't possibly be that dumb to believe f2p games are free.

24 Sep 2015, 14:21 PM
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jump backJump back to quoted post24 Sep 2015, 13:59 PMKatitof


And there are people who want coh2 to go free2play and have microtransactions become as important feature as the gameplay itself :sibHyena:

They can't possibly be that dumb to believe f2p games are free.




Relic works for the Canadian Devil. :megusta:
24 Sep 2015, 14:23 PM
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Don't know about relic, but I certainly do :foreveralone:
24 Sep 2015, 14:30 PM
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jump backJump back to quoted post24 Sep 2015, 14:23 PMKatitof
Don't know about relic, but I certainly do :foreveralone:


Yes we know you are a fallen angel that serves evil. Stop it already! :lolol:
24 Sep 2015, 18:58 PM
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who is this AngryJoe guy i don't understand what the big hype is about ?
25 Sep 2015, 01:04 AM
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jump backJump back to quoted post24 Sep 2015, 18:58 PMrush
who is this AngryJoe guy i don't understand what the big hype is about ?
He is a very popular YouTube game critic. He was asked by relic and sega to review and play the game, I give him props for calling the spade of spades and agreeing that the dlc policy is suspect and needs work.
25 Sep 2015, 01:19 AM
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I agree 95% with with AngryJoe had to say about DLC.

If players want custom decals, custom skins, etc, that's perfectly fine and dandy. What I don't like is the expensive commanders - and they vary in price. Some are only $2.00, while others are $4.00 - or, it used to be that way at least.

I liked the old system of leveling up to acquire some things (a couple commanders, some skins, achievements for bulletins).

I think if they mixed that old system with a not shitty war spoils and re-worked commander DLC, coh2 would be in a lot healthier spot for the casual player, and in the competitive scene.

In the former scenario, the average joe only has to pay money once and he gets a bunch of shit and is like, "oh, this is like call of duty. I just play more and unlock stuff". In the latter scenario, it may be possible to allow a short series of a dozen or so bulletins in a high-profile tournament as opposed to no bulletins.
25 Sep 2015, 01:41 AM
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I've never been a fan of commanders or bulletins. The options found in commanders should be a part of a more extensive tree of options in the form of doctrines. Everyone should have access to the same options when they play a faction in every game. The concept of loadouts is really limiting and my most hated aspect of COH2.
25 Sep 2015, 02:03 AM
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I agree 100%. This kind of DLC microtransactions trend is disappointing and depressing.
25 Sep 2015, 02:56 AM
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jump backJump back to quoted post24 Sep 2015, 13:59 PMKatitof


And there are people who want coh2 to go free2play and have microtransactions become as important feature as the gameplay itself :sibHyena:

They can't possibly be that dumb to believe f2p games are free.



I don't think it is unreasonable to expect the base game (Ost + Sov) to go free to play. The games has gone through like 12 sales with the price of that dropped to less than 10 dollars, anyone who wanted it has already bought it. Making that F2P would bring in more people who are likely to buy the other factions and the existing content.
25 Sep 2015, 03:00 AM
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It was really bad when it came out at first - with AssGrens, TigerAce, Sov industry... Relic and Sega are glad that they didn't get Angry Joe to review it then.

http://steamcharts.com/app/231430

Just to show you - while Relic was doing this shit, the population for the game dropped by a staggering 75%. I was one of those that left for a year because of this shit.
25 Sep 2015, 07:25 AM
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jump backJump back to quoted post25 Sep 2015, 02:56 AMTobis


I don't think it is unreasonable to expect the base game (Ost + Sov) to go free to play. The games has gone through like 12 sales with the price of that dropped to less than 10 dollars, anyone who wanted it has already bought it. Making that F2P would bring in more people who are likely to buy the other factions and the existing content.


You don't really realize how it really is.

F2P literally does not mean free2play. Well, if you were some super casual about coh, sure, otherwise stuff like bulletins/commanders loosing HP or all commanders except for basic ones being only temporary, which you'd constantly have to rebuy/refill/repair, all basic features we have now(1 free tow, sov campaign) would be locked behind DLC.

Free2play model doesn't exist to make games for free, it exists because it makes money and a damn good money.

I don't believe few more players are worth introducing micropays that would force every single serious player into basically a subscription for playing the game.
25 Sep 2015, 08:10 AM
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jump backJump back to quoted post25 Sep 2015, 07:25 AMKatitof


You don't really realize how it really is.

F2P literally does not mean free2play. Well, if you were some super casual about coh, sure, otherwise stuff like bulletins/commanders loosing HP or all commanders except for basic ones being only temporary, which you'd constantly have to rebuy/refill/repair, all basic features we have now(1 free tow, sov campaign) would be locked behind DLC.

Free2play model doesn't exist to make games for free, it exists because it makes money and a damn good money.

I don't believe few more players are worth introducing micropays that would force every single serious player into basically a subscription for playing the game.


Funnily enough that's exactly what they did with assgrens, tiger ace and sov industry and most of us paid $50-90 already by then.

It was a lot worse than F2P.

That and relic tried that model already - Company of Heroes Online
25 Sep 2015, 08:23 AM
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He's making a good point regarding the microtransactions, but in reality, in CoH2, they aren't burdening I find. This game is deep enough to want to (and need to) spending significant time with each commander and regular troops. During this time a commander will likely drop. And during this time, sales will occur, making the price a minmal issue. And I find I more and more play full games not even picking a commander. That's how it is for me, but like I said, I do agree with the sentiment overall.

jump backJump back to quoted post25 Sep 2015, 07:25 AMKatitof


You don't really realize how it really is.

F2P literally does not mean free2play. Well, if you were some super casual about coh, sure, otherwise stuff like bulletins/commanders loosing HP or all commanders except for basic ones being only temporary, which you'd constantly have to rebuy/refill/repair, all basic features we have now(1 free tow, sov campaign) would be locked behind DLC.

Free2play model doesn't exist to make games for free, it exists because it makes money and a damn good money.

I don't believe few more players are worth introducing micropays that would force every single serious player into basically a subscription for playing the game.

+1
25 Sep 2015, 09:02 AM
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When i stated the same (about the DLC Cmmanders) multiple times over the last two years, the response i got was "this is the future, this is how it is right know" and other BS like this.

So many sheep living in this world!!! Most of you get what you deserve.
25 Sep 2015, 09:09 AM
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actually, if the fixed warspoils and made commanders free for people who bought the game, i would be very happy if relic made the basegame F2P
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LimaOscarMike: My laptop can't even run COH3. Should I get them on my Series X or is it dead yet?
Last Saturday, 05:10 AM
Rosbone: One of my last major gripes about Coh3. Price is still too high I feel for growth. But progress is always good.
Last Saturday, 04:43 AM
Rosbone: I am not 100% sure but I think Relic actually fixed up the skirmish menus a little last patch. If so, thank you and keep it coming.
Last Saturday, 04:39 AM
Osinyagov: Suddenly, coh2 is slowly dying, but you can play it, playerbase still big enough
09 Apr 2025, 17:00 PM
Osinyagov: Wow, i remember you from zansi and vali videos, good old memories
09 Apr 2025, 16:58 PM
Beinhard: o7 miss this game and zansi
09 Apr 2025, 14:09 PM
Lady Xenarra: @Willy Pete The lack of April Fools this year is odd lol
02 Apr 2025, 01:34 AM
Willy Pete: @Rosbone not dead yet. when that happens the font will switch to Papyrus :*(
02 Apr 2025, 00:16 AM
dasheepeh: it was an honor guys :guyokay:
01 Apr 2025, 20:34 PM
aerafield: yeah I already prepared my "Can't believe there's comic mode for the 10 daily visitors even on this April 1st" :guyokay:
01 Apr 2025, 20:29 PM
Rosbone: @dasheepeh I guess that means this site is officially dead :guyokay:
01 Apr 2025, 20:19 PM
dasheepeh: no comic sans font for april 1st this year?
01 Apr 2025, 19:56 PM
Willy Pete: @Lady Xenarra this you? https://i.imgflip.com/3e4thi.jpg
01 Apr 2025, 02:53 AM
Lady Xenarra: Does anyone else think that USF needs buffs? It feels like they’re on life support sometimes
01 Apr 2025, 02:36 AM
Willy Pete: @Rosbone Ahh I missed that memo. I still think its a bad decision though. Adds frustration for players and isnt gonna make them that much money
27 Mar 2025, 15:46 PM
Rosbone: It is also good they left it free until after the free to play weekend. Points for that.
27 Mar 2025, 09:34 AM
Rosbone: But I agree, the cost to get a full decent Coh game pushing $115 US is not the best idea. Especially when it needs so much more work for casuals.
27 Mar 2025, 09:32 AM
Rosbone: To be fair, it was a thank you to early fans right? They said it was not free for long and it would become a pay DLC at some point.
27 Mar 2025, 09:30 AM
Willy Pete: Re-releasing free DLC so they can charge new players money for it. Brilliant marketing strategy :clap:
27 Mar 2025, 04:31 AM
Soheil: Coh2 still broken server ?
25 Mar 2025, 18:27 PM
Rosbone: Congrats to Relic. Looks like Coh3 has finally usurped Coh2 s the popular Coh. You smell terrific. :snfQuinn:.
24 Mar 2025, 02:46 AM
Nickbn: and again someone else replies. I mean come on guys. Give @adamírcz a chance
22 Mar 2025, 14:00 PM
Willy Pete: @Nickbn you didn't ask a question, and this is a chat box...
20 Mar 2025, 13:11 PM
Nickbn: @Rosbone it's incredibly rude to speak on someone elses behalf, especially when a question is directly adressed to them. I understand your passion for the subject at hand but I want to hear from him.
20 Mar 2025, 10:16 AM
Rosbone: @Nickbn No, I am just saying people should not be using any Relic owned forum since they have proven they ban anyone who says true things about Coh3.
18 Mar 2025, 19:01 PM
Nickbn: @Rosbone do you speak on his behalf? I didn't know. In that case keep us updated please.
18 Mar 2025, 16:47 PM
Rosbone: #RelicModdedEchoChamber
16 Mar 2025, 17:54 PM
Rosbone: @Nickbn True except, the only people on the Relic Discord/Reddit/Steam are brain washed monkey zealots. They wont even understand what @adamírcz is talking about. Anyone else is banned.
16 Mar 2025, 17:54 PM
Nickbn: @adamírcz might be a better idea to voice this to relic directly than to voice it here, in a shoutbox of a nearly deade fansite #justsaying...
16 Mar 2025, 16:36 PM
webdesign-muenchen-w: @Rosbone it is sick
14 Mar 2025, 22:09 PM
aerafield: @adamírcz aren't the first two disconnects free every day?
14 Mar 2025, 19:26 PM
Rosbone: It is so unlike Relic to punish its fans and community.
14 Mar 2025, 12:07 PM
adamírcz: So, I just got a leaver penalty without even getting onto the loading screen because of the game disconnecting, bravo Relic
14 Mar 2025, 10:45 AM
Rosbone: It is an indicator of the very short sighted capitalist view that plagues any company where leadership does not understand the product.
13 Mar 2025, 20:00 PM
Rosbone: They dont care about Coh3 or Coh in general. They are just trying to grab cash by ripping off the small user base they have.
13 Mar 2025, 19:58 PM
Rosbone: Just making mistake after mistake after mistake.
13 Mar 2025, 19:57 PM
Rosbone: It is clear they crapped out an unfinished game. And are now barely supporting it as they make new smaller games. Coh3 is stillborn. It will be meh for at least another 2-4 years. Meaning they killed the whole franchise instead of growing it.
13 Mar 2025, 19:56 PM
Rosbone: For a thing they could fix in minutes. Literally minutes.
13 Mar 2025, 19:53 PM
Rosbone: If I did play coh3 and was mainly a skirmish player, I would be pissed and probably stop playing. And it has been like this since release. Why? I would not tell my friends to buy a game I am not even playing. Lost sales and angered users.
13 Mar 2025, 19:53 PM
Rosbone: I am just saddened how Relic keeps hurting themselves by not fixing 5 minute things like menus. Why anger users with stuff that could be fixed in minutes???
13 Mar 2025, 19:50 PM
Rosbone: I was wondering why people think I was raging. I think it was when I said "because coh3 sucks so bad". That was not my opinion. Just a general feel from top players/streamers. I dont play Coh3 and have NO opinion of it.
13 Mar 2025, 19:48 PM
OKSpitfire: You can rage as often as you like btw, you usually manage to make it pretty funny.
12 Mar 2025, 11:18 AM
Rosbone: So it was a systemic failure across multiple disciplines and check points.
12 Mar 2025, 04:30 AM
Rosbone: Knowing how companies work, I imagine a new hire making the menus. The API they are using is complicated and things were hard to figure out. But at some point QA or management should have addressed these things. Usually within 6 months of starting.
12 Mar 2025, 04:29 AM
Rosbone: @theekvn I dont hate Coh3 or Relic. I just dont understand how you work on Coh3 for like 7 years and the menu system is worse than if a Programming 101 student made it. Feel free to explain it to me.
12 Mar 2025, 04:07 AM
theekvn: + 33% dmg rear hit was best deal ever.
12 Mar 2025, 04:00 AM
theekvn: KT just need fuel debuf from 15% to 50%, Ele arc of fire- aim time improve and they are good to go
12 Mar 2025, 03:59 AM
theekvn: and please Rosbone,I know you hate Coh3 to the bone due to your drama with relic, Still, Can you give a proper point of view instead of raging ?.
12 Mar 2025, 03:54 AM
theekvn: you rather go 76 to unity Whizbang 2.0 or go home.
12 Mar 2025, 03:52 AM
theekvn: also US tier 4 is 145f and Sherman pen 140 nerf is too much.
12 Mar 2025, 03:52 AM
theekvn: Whizbang lock behind CP, meanwhile stuka is techtree progress
12 Mar 2025, 03:51 AM
KoRneY: @aerafield It's possible that it is underpriced for what it is capable of now, no need to go full retard and take it immediately as a massive problem. It costs 60 more MP than a pz.3 and in 2v2 the barrage can be quite strong.
07 Mar 2025, 19:14 PM
OKSpitfire: I do like that they made the Stuka more expensive instead of nerfing it into the ground though. Found it pretty unsatisfying to use before that buff a while back....
06 Mar 2025, 16:35 PM
aerafield: USF already is by far the shittiest faction in terms of countering blobbing and turtling, now they supposedly have one overtuned tool locked behind a BG and it's immediately a massive problem?
06 Mar 2025, 13:33 PM
Lady Xenarra: I think post-2.0 Whizbang buffs, the price is too low esp since the Stuka got nerfed in cost too. Speaking of which, how exactly is one supposed to successfully dive this Sherman in disguise? Med tank spam running into SSFs?
06 Mar 2025, 12:13 PM
OKSpitfire: A powerful, doctrinal unit that outperforms stock stuff? Colour me shocked! :P
06 Mar 2025, 10:49 AM
Willy Pete: Cool you wanna lose your stock lategame arty too then?
06 Mar 2025, 03:20 AM
Lady Xenarra: WTB Whizzbang for DAK instead of Stuka, 5 fuel cheape, 60MP more expensive and next to impossible to dive. :rofl:
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