OKW Incendiary grenade needs to be looked at

Jump back to quoted post24 Sep 2015, 10:08 AMIron Emperor

Haven't used it yet, still no throw animation like other nades?

Jump back to quoted post24 Sep 2015, 10:26 AMFiresparks

technically it does have a throwing animation, but it's very short. If I'm reading the stats, right, the throwing animation is only .25 seconds.

Note that there are other grenade with a .25 seconds throw time, but those grenade are usually used by elite troops with a 1.25 seconds fuse. If I recall correctly, the other "quick" grenades in the game are shocktroopers, guards, panzergrenadier, Fallshirm, ober, and commandos.

Shocktrooper have the fastest explosive grenade in the entire game, in terms of throw time and fuse time. IIRC it's .25 second throw time with a .75 second fuse. Most people seems to be not aware of it since Shocktrooper do well enough with their ppsh.

I think the incendiary grenade would have been better on the sturm. Right now the grenade is still instantaneous at close range. Giving it to the sturm wouldn't have change the balance too much since the sturm are already good at close range.

Jump back to quoted post24 Sep 2015, 11:10 AMMoerserKarL

take a look into the hotfix notes. So whats the problem now?

Jump back to quoted post24 Sep 2015, 09:54 AMUGBEAR

The Axis forum warrior won again, this research-free-fast-throw-area-denial with impact alpha damage grenade is fine.....OK
let's swap this grenade to molotov then, I think every allied player will accept this "similar-motolov" thing.

Jump back to quoted post24 Sep 2015, 09:54 AMUGBEAR

The Axis forum warrior won again, this research-free-fast-throw-area-denial with impact alpha damage grenade is fine.....OK
let's swap this grenade to molotov then, I think every allied player will accept this "similar-motolov" thing.

Jump back to quoted post24 Sep 2015, 14:45 PMAlexzandvar

Uhm, you do know it's literally a molotov with a longer travel time right? As in if your in a building you will take just as much damage from it as if you were hit by a molotov. The only difference is that the delay on the throw for the molotov is longer by about half.

If throwing at 15+ range Molotov will hit first

If throwing at 5->15 Flame Grenade will hit first.

Tbh the OKW Flame Nade should only cost about 20 munitions in it's current state since it's a lot huger of an investment. And both the molotov and first truck upgrade are free.

Jump back to quoted post24 Sep 2015, 08:33 AMArclyte

Kubel can reverse away from the carrier while only taking minor damage, and it can be repaired. Any damage you do to the UKF carrier can't be repaired until they tech up.

I use the carrier against kubels too, but smart players will kite and put enough damage on the carrier to make chasing the kubel a suicide run. Also, the carrier has terrible gun traverse and turns like ass, and that can be abused too.

Only time kubel is countered at the start is when a soviet makes a scout car

Jump back to quoted post24 Sep 2015, 14:59 PMZyllen

Oh the stupidity is reaching critical levels. You ignore the fact that the okw before this had NO way of removing infantry in buildings unless they used overwhelming force or a stuka. And last time i checked scripts start with oorah and merge.

Jump back to quoted post24 Sep 2015, 15:12 PMMuxsus

You can't even throw the molotov at 15+ range.

Also the delay difference is still significant, and considering how every second in the fire will take away some 15% of a squad's hp, the incendiary nade deserves a larger muni cost.

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Though I can't understand how molotov tech (sidegrade) and okw truck (main tech) can be similar.

Considering the nerf, it would be ok to reduce the nade's cost to 25 since the resource penalty is a thing.

Jump back to quoted post24 Sep 2015, 15:39 PMAlexzandvar

As Soviets you start with enough fuel to instantly research Molotovs, similarly you start with enough fuel to get 1 truck as OKW. Both are free to get, if you spend fuel on something else that's on you.