Air Supremacy is just completely OP

Jump back to quoted post21 Sep 2015, 21:04 PMAustralian Magic

Put in base.
If you put them out of base, they are expose to enemy's fire.

Over 300 ammo should kill any builing.

What about MHT incendiary barrage killing Brits emplacements?

What about MHT incendiary barrage killing Brits FRP?

Jump back to quoted post21 Sep 2015, 21:07 PMFlying Dustbin

I'm sorry, do the OKW trucks suddenly stop repairing and healing if they're in the base sector? No.

You can't just brainlessly put your Flak truck on a fuel point and expect it to defend it for free every match, nor can you put the med-truck right at the frontline and beat the enemy by attrition with your healed up volks.

Sometimes you have to adapt and play differently, and if this means putting your trucks in the base if you see a british player with this commander, so be it.

Soviets and Ostheer can deal with no forward retreat. There is nothing wrong from having to walk from your base.

and vs brits, forward bases aren't "all the advantages OKW has". leIG is really good at shutting down emplacements and pinning squads from long range, not to mention the early game advantage OKW has in the brit matchup.

IL-2 bombstrike shits on OKW trucks too, Air Supremacy just shits over a larger area.

Jump back to quoted post21 Sep 2015, 21:06 PMIron Emperor

Then the OKW 300 ammo arty should do the same it doesn't.

on the other points I already said that it should be nerfed or at least the target tables since it does way too much damage. Read my posts Aussy, since i already mentioned to nerf the flame dmg on emplacements

Jump back to quoted post21 Sep 2015, 21:10 PMRMMLz

- Put them in your base, no field reinforcement and healing for OKW
- Nerf the price maybe? so by this logic a 290 Fuel Jagd should shoot through buildings with 120 range.
-What does MHT has to do anything with this. Brace is broken, fire damage is bullshit, DoT is problematic.

Jump back to quoted post21 Sep 2015, 21:13 PMMoerserKarL

and why not give OKW the old 105mm howitzer barrage from the scavenge doctrine back, too kill the complete USF base with 300 munition?

This solution is retarded because OKW trucks supposed to set up outside the base.
Wipe tanks, inf and paks etc., thats "fine". But a full health truck is just stupid. reduce the cost and the damage against trucks as well.

Jump back to quoted post21 Sep 2015, 21:24 PMAustralian Magic

The barrage from Breakthrough wrecks everything in the area.

Barrage from fortifications is great, much stronger than Air Supremacy but it requires vision.

For example, AS can bring down KT and JT to half health.

Zeroing can kill them both.

Nothing can survive Zeroing if you have vision.

Jump back to quoted post21 Sep 2015, 21:24 PMAustralian Magic

The barrage from Breakthrough wrecks everything in the area.

Barrage from fortifications is great, much stronger than Air Supremacy but it requires vision.

For example, AS can bring down KT and JT to half health.

Zeroing can kill them both.

Nothing can survive Zeroing if you have vision.




It's risk reward mechanic - you can heal and reinforce on field, while you enemy must return to base which means, you have advantage. And every advantage should have some weaknesses.

Why should it? I don't get it.

MHT has everything to do with it. 325 ammo, late game ability cannot kill builing while MHT incendiary can destroy everything from the begging rof cheap price?



Base sector

AS hardly wipes anything since it takes over 20secs to land.


Zeroing Arty is much stronger when you have vision.

Jump back to quoted post21 Sep 2015, 20:45 PMTobis

What about wiping full health static OKW trucks?

Jump back to quoted post21 Sep 2015, 21:43 PMAustralian Magic

There are plenty ways of getting consant vision without reaviling it to the enemy for zeroing, at least in 2v2.

Assault arty is RNG bases. Sometimes it gives just somke, sometimes it kills everything in the area.

So what about other 1-click wipe abilities?

ML-20/B4 - dive bomb.
Pak43/LeFH - IL-2
Incendiary - emplacement

If you put med far away, you get huge advantage over your enemy and every advatange must have some weak point.

Jump back to quoted post21 Sep 2015, 21:47 PMiTzDusty

Are those units non doctrinal tech structures? No? Then wow, I guess maybe comparing them to trucks is dishonest.

You know what though, no matter what we say you'll still find some unrelated excuse. I wonder how often you use air supremacy.

Jump back to quoted post21 Sep 2015, 21:42 PMCookiezNcreem

kek angry bears disagreeing with eachother

Jump back to quoted post21 Sep 2015, 20:50 PMiTzDusty

Yeah lets just completely lock out entire strategies centering around truck placement because of one late game ability.

Dumbest solution I've ever heard.

Jump back to quoted post21 Sep 2015, 20:45 PMTobis

What about wiping full health static OKW trucks?

Jump back to quoted post21 Sep 2015, 20:45 PMTobis

What about wiping full health static OKW trucks?