Those stupid leiG spam

Jump back to quoted post26 Sep 2015, 00:09 AMNinjaWJ

spekaing of axis winrates in 4v4.....

everyone is crying that axis need buffs now that they have lower win rates in team games.

funny thing is, months ago when OKW and Ost had winrates of 80% and higher, it was considered normal lol. People who are now complaining that Axis needs buffs because of teamgames, are the same ones defending their absurd winrates months ago

Jump back to quoted post25 Sep 2015, 05:46 AMJohnnyB

To be more specific: If among the 20 threads there are 12 complaining about ISG and one complaining about partisans, guess what unit will be nerfed and what unit will be forgot?

Jump back to quoted post25 Sep 2015, 16:36 PMAlexzandvar

Despite the ISG OP (I agree it's overpreforming for cost) OKW's win rate has continued to fall off into nothing both in the automatch and OCF despite 2 hotfix's so far so I think there is actually some serious problems that need to be addressed.

Jump back to quoted post26 Sep 2015, 05:38 AMArclyte

http://coh2chart.com/

axis are 60% in 4v4, USF/Sov are 63%, and UKF is at 70


Looking back, axis were consistently in the high 80% winrate (many times, in the 90% range) as far back as the chart allows (July 1st). Allies were lucky to be around 50%, until UKF were added to the game.

Common sense and personal experience is telling me that A) UKF was a new faction and everyone wanted to play it, coupled with B) US and Soviet were being propped up in 4v4 by the UKF.

Now that the new faction smell is wearing off, and things like the crippling brace nerf, the needed bofors and partisan nerf and vickers bug fix is in place, I think we'll see axis return to 4v4 dominance, and the leiG is going to be a major unit to carry them there

Jump back to quoted post26 Sep 2015, 01:01 AMREforever

Obviously, if they have a flak HQ then it's not really viable to flank. The idea is to put immense pressure on the OKW player and to get more map control/resources so you can get vehicles out much faster. I should note that I almost always incorporate a sniper into my build when fighting OKW players.

People are definitely over exaggerating the projectile speed of the ISG. If you take a shot with your sniper, then move him there's absolutely no way the ISG can hit your sniper; I've done this in all of my 1v1 and 2v2 matches where I simply wear down the OKW player with my sniper while using an infantry section or two to screen any infantry advances, while my other units cap around the map.

If this thread is still running a week-ish from now I'll post replays of me beating high ranking OKW players as the British just to prove my point, and quell these statements of the ISG being OP.

Jump back to quoted post26 Sep 2015, 12:35 PMKhan

Please, provide us a replay where your 'continuous movement and flanking' has negated the effects of 2 or more ISGs.

Jump back to quoted post26 Sep 2015, 23:26 PMelchino7

ISG mvp, poor Symb.

Jump back to quoted post27 Sep 2015, 01:00 AMThatRabidPotato

He should've just gotten a KV8!

Jump back to quoted post27 Sep 2015, 01:00 AMThatRabidPotato

He should've just gotten a KV8!

Jump back to quoted post27 Sep 2015, 01:16 AMaaa

1 jp and kv8 is out. Plus its hard to survive till kv8 without heavy mortars which kv8 commander doesn have.

Shock Rifle is only vs OH

Jump back to quoted post27 Sep 2015, 00:04 AMPuppetmaster

I'd love someone to try and defend ISG after that Sym vs Barton game.

Jump back to quoted post27 Sep 2015, 01:25 AMThatRabidPotato

1: that was a joke, referencing Barton baseraping Symbiosis in the ace game with a KV8.
2. Shock Rifle is GREAT against OKW. KV8 owns volkblobs, shocks own OKW infantry, and IS2 provides late game meat. Get SU76 and Zis while you hold out for IS2