That tactic is very much cheese imo. Price seems to be the only one able to pull it off (to that extent of blobbing anyway) at high-level play, but even then I'd venture a guess that is not too effective if the opponent knows it's coming.
From your previous posts I think it's safe to assume you play OH almost exclusively, so I'll try to help in the unlikely event you face Price or someone that does this effectively:
1. Go CAS
2. Prioritize munis over everything, turn fuel into munis even
3. Get 4-5 grens, 1 mg to support them, maybe a mortar for good measure
4. Equip all grens with lmgs asap
5. Spam stuka AI strafes, use it every time you engage the blob
6. Get 1-2 paks as appropriate to counter armor
Rear echelons shouldn't be able to pick up any base upgrades
14 Sep 2015, 14:42 PM
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14 Sep 2015, 14:58 PM
#22
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Lol this thread. This strategy requires you to sink a lot of munitions into REs which are still fairly squishy, they are just cheaper to reinforce. By this logic you should just delete Ostruppen from the game because they are so easy to spam. Let's think about this logic...
1. People complain about Rifleman spam/deathblob/ lack of USF openings
2. People complain about REs being useless
Someone manages to use REs effectively and that means we should nerf the one thing that made it possible. Well okay then!
1. People complain about Rifleman spam/deathblob/ lack of USF openings
2. People complain about REs being useless
Someone manages to use REs effectively and that means we should nerf the one thing that made it possible. Well okay then!
14 Sep 2015, 15:15 PM
#23
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What scrub is this, who called for nerfs, on UP faction, 'cause "exploits"?
"They should not beat", he said, "falls, obers, or grenadiers, while blobbing."
^ sing in time to Greensleeves ^
"They should not beat", he said, "falls, obers, or grenadiers, while blobbing."
^ sing in time to Greensleeves ^
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14 Sep 2015, 15:25 PM
#24
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What scrub is this, who called for nerfs, on UP faction, 'cause "exploits"?
90% of COH2.org and Official Forums.
14 Sep 2015, 15:31 PM
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...By this logic you should just delete Ostruppen from the game because they are so easy to spam. Let's think about this logic...
Imagine you could upgrade them with LMG42, now that would be actually broken
(double Bar on a bunch amount of REs, which is super pricy and even lack any kind of nade, certainly isn't)
14 Sep 2015, 16:04 PM
#26
Posts: 102
Fully agreed. I hate their guts.
How about shreks on volks? Volks are cheap and shreks are potent upgrade, very potent. Or double standards again?
In other words. " let's close this topic as I can't tolerate it when someone exposes my cheesy tactics. So let's call it trolling and closing it"
Nothing good will come from a troll topic.
But training 10-15 REs and equipping them with bars, zooks and 1919s is not a trolling strat. Yeah I want to be able to upgrade those ostruppens with laser STGs as well, thanks.
By this logic you should just delete Ostruppen from the game because they are so easy to spam.That's a reading compression issue on your part, here is a simple version:
REs are fine if not a tad expensive.
They can still hold and use the most powerful upgrades in game and deal the same damage as any other specialist, expensive unit. That's the issue. Imagine ostruppen were able to pickup an lmg34 and a panzershreck at the same time
@Keaper: Actually i play brits mostly and man I am tired of CAS. Skill planes and Iwin buttons take away the challenge factor and that's where the fun ends.
And btw, with those upgrades they vet up quite fast and get one additional model so I wouldn't call tehm squishy at that point.
14 Sep 2015, 16:25 PM
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The real problem is that BARs should be a global upgrade. The only purpose RE serve currently, besides picking up weapon racks, is recrewing something after a big engagement without having to retreat another rifle off the field. RE should have mines not weapons.
14 Sep 2015, 16:27 PM
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Posts: 37
My sides
14 Sep 2015, 16:38 PM
#29
Posts: 2819
Insert *don't t8 the b8 m8 I r8 this topic 8/8*.JPEG
All posts made are about situations in 2v2's. Not a 1v1 player.
14 Sep 2015, 16:40 PM
#30
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Just watched a live game...
You watched ONE live game, and your immediate suggestion is to completely remove a game feature without any argumentation.
So, yeah, i consider this trolling / baiting.
...
In other words. " let's close this topic...
P.S.: SPrice does the same with a Rifle & Zook combination. Or Pathfinder and Bars. He just likes his spam & blob strats, and he's quite good with them. There's also several videos and replays online where this kind of tactic backfires a lot - so there's that (cheese countered as intended).
14 Sep 2015, 16:42 PM
#31
Posts: 102
Such an idiotic and immature community
14 Sep 2015, 16:43 PM
#32
Posts: 2053
Such an idiotic and immature community
Such a poor loser.
14 Sep 2015, 16:55 PM
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Permanently BannedThe real problem is that BARs should be a global upgrade. The only purpose RE serve currently, besides picking up weapon racks, is recrewing something after a big engagement without having to retreat another rifle off the field. RE should have mines not weapons.
This isnt vcoh. Global upgrades are boring. and non-tactical.
There is no recording in all WW2 history of a piat actually knocking off a vehicle. Yes, it was THAT bad.
14 Sep 2015, 17:10 PM
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They can still hold and use the most powerful upgrades in game and deal the same damage as any other specialist, expensive unit. That's the issue. Imagine ostruppen were able to pickup an lmg34 and a panzershreck at the same time
And btw, with those upgrades they vet up quite fast and get one additional model so I wouldn't call tehm squishy at that point.
Most powerful upgrades in game? Are we playing the same game? Because BAR and Zooks don't equate to LMG34s and Schreks. Even then, its the same thing where you are paying the Munitions for the Weapon's DPS - whatever squad lugging it around doesn't really matter. 2-3 models of the RE squad are still lugging around their derpy Pew Pew rifles... if you pay 120 Munitions of course their DPS will go up. Rifles still have better Vet and DPS with the same weapons, you are just choosing to sacrifice that for a less effective squad that is cheaper. Regardless you are limited by Munitions.
The same would go for Osttruppen; the only difference is that the commander has a Fuel -> Munitions conversion which would let you spam upgrades which is the only way that it would be broken. Not like the Mobile Defense Ostruppen with LMGs are all that overwhelming either lol. Besides, Weapon Racks are a core USF mechanic whereas for Wher. its not. Its simply not an issue.
14 Sep 2015, 17:11 PM
#35
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I'm actually rich and own an island. I only play this videogame as I feel nostalgic for vCoh
Such a poor loser.
14 Sep 2015, 17:16 PM
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You're playing the wrong game if you're feeling nostalgic for vcoh.
14 Sep 2015, 17:25 PM
#37
Posts: 218
nerf Rear echelons.......
HA HA HA
whats next??
This.
REs are still squishy, even with 5 men at Vet 2.
14 Sep 2015, 17:28 PM
#38
Posts: 218
Are you one of the guys that I rekt last night doing this?
"That's it, I'm done with this game"- Axis player after being overrun by vet 3 RE horde with a BAR and Bazooka in every squad.
"That's it, I'm done with this game"- Axis player after being overrun by vet 3 RE horde with a BAR and Bazooka in every squad.
14 Sep 2015, 18:22 PM
#39
Posts: 102
how about with 50 guys?
This.
REs are still squishy, even with 5 men at Vet 2.
14 Sep 2015, 18:45 PM
#40
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You're playing the wrong game if you're feeling nostalgic for vcoh.
Nostalgia is when you want something one way just because thats how it was in the past, regardless of whether it was better or not. Making BARs a global upgrade, along with some other faction changes to US (buff 57mm for example) is just better than the current system.
This isnt vcoh. Global upgrades are boring. and non-tactical.
Not that your opinion matters, but picking up weapons is not tactical nor interesting.
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