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Please point to me where I called Allies OP in my thread?
Never said it, was making the point that at the moment it appears all Axis have is a Reactionary playstyle aand we can't be proactive, knowing what's coming.
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Ost don't need a t0 AT gun when they are the only faction that has a t1 snare without the need to upgrade, research or get vet.
Grens give ost enough stopgap till paks, it's fine how it is.
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Ost isn't the only faction with a snare at the start.... Soviets get a 30 muni mine, so only faction... no.
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Please point to me where I called Allies OP in my thread?
Never said it, was making the point that at the moment it appears all Axis have is a Reactionary playstyle aand we can't be proactive, knowing what's coming.
At what point do the Allies need to be reacting to their opponent's gameplay as much as Axis has to react to theirs? It appears to be pretty one sided at the moment.
Playing constant CATCH-UP REACTION is destroying Axis play and it isn't L2P - we don't have the tools we need early enough to put up a good fight.
The Allies have the choices that effect the rest of the game and the mobility advantage in most areas of the game.
And with the way the QF 6 lber is working for its price, a reduction around 290-300 is warranted for the Pak 40 as well, IMHO. It's pretty high priced comparatively and it's vet1 ability needs to allow for a higher price but not its current level.
The Axis counters to the early Allied play are quickly obsolete or already easily countered themselves.
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Ost don't need a t0 AT gun when they are the only faction that has a t1 snare without the need to upgrade, research or get vet.
Grens give ost enough stopgap till paks, it's fine how it is.
There is usually a zis on the field long before a 222 can arrive and btw, usually is because they know it counters the 222 specifically that is neede to REACT to their playstyle. Invalid point.
Getting a faust off on a AAHT or WASP is neigh impossible.
You're helping prove my point. the zis is available from the first building they can build. Why should it be so different for OH?
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All we see now in game after game is the repeating cycle that Axis players are consistently REACTING to the allied playstyle. Their units have always come out earlier that force the Axis players off the map. WASP, AA HT's, early T70, early Su76, flamer scout cars, early Crusier MKII, early 70mm scout car, etc. Even late game Axis armor is a day late and a dollar short now especially vs. Brit. The Axis counters to the early Allied play are quickly obsolete or already easily countered themselves.
OKW can get a racketten right away in anticipation of these actics, but OH has to rely on soft counter or no counter Faust. The units that Racketten/Pak40 are meant to counter have an easy time of avoiding and then killing the AT, because the units the AT are trying to kill easily negate or destroy their support. Playing constant CATCH-UP REACTION is destroying Axis play and it isn't L2P - we don't have the tools we need early enough to put up a good fight. Moving the MG42 to T0 was a good step, but finish it with moving the Pak40 in its place at T1.
YES this is a game and history isn't always the desire of gaming, but it brings up a valid point. At what point do the Allies need to be reacting to their opponent's gameplay as much as Axis has to react to theirs? It appears to be pretty one sided at the moment.
And with the way the QF 6 lber is working for its price, a reduction around 290-300 is warranted for the Pak 40 as well, IMHO. It's pretty high priced comparatively and it's vet1 ability needs to allow for a higher price but not its current level.
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There is no recording in all WW2 history of a piat actually knocking off a vehicle. Yes, it was THAT bad.
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All we see now in game after game is the repeating cycle that Axis players are consistently REACTING to the allied playstyle. Their units have always come out earlier that force the Axis players off the map. WASP, AA HT's, early T70, early Su76, flamer scout cars, early Crusier MKII, early 70mm scout car, etc. Even late game Axis armor is a day late and a dollar short now especially vs. Brit. The Axis counters to the early Allied play are quickly obsolete or already easily countered themselves.
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USF dont have no AT gun in t0
im going to tell u what every axis player says
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actually, each faction needs light AT gun in HQ-T1 structure
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I agree with OP. It is very hard to play axis in my opinion, and even what he says is not going to cut it in response to how OP the Brits (and allies in general) are against both factions. There really is only one way to balance things:
Move all Ostheer units to T1
It's really unfair to not have the counters you need readily available. Ostheer struggles without having all it's units available. As we repeatedly say: this is a combined arms game!? How can I play combined arms if all my units are not readily available to me?!?! Ostheer in particular is about combined arms and Ostheer players never blob, the army just doesn't have the capacity; so this is important and would really benefit the faction as a whole.
Remove all teching beyond BP1, put all units into T1 building. This will improve combined arms play and allow Ostheer to better counter these OP shock unit plays with the proper application of appropriate units.
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actually, each faction needs light AT gun in HQ-T1 structure
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Yes pls
I want to use that dinky Soviet AT gun from defensive commander outside of modded games
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Switch pak with sniper.
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