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Brummbar, too good for this earth?

5 Sep 2015, 14:48 PM
#21
avatar of RMMLz

Posts: 1802 | Subs: 1

jump backJump back to quoted post5 Sep 2015, 00:30 AMJonky


:p Picture got me. I can relegate the comment to sarcasm as well then :D


Happened to me too. Gotta install a new version of SarcasmDetector.
6 Sep 2015, 08:33 AM
#22
avatar of Junaid

Posts: 509

Brummbar is arguably better than the churchhill AVRE.



Can I sig this?
6 Sep 2015, 08:41 AM
#23
avatar of Sesleri

Posts: 46

The people who posted serious counter argument responses to OP horrify me.
6 Sep 2015, 08:57 AM
#24
avatar of Kreatiir

Posts: 2819

This is sarcasm, right? Right?


I sure hope so :)
6 Sep 2015, 09:03 AM
#25
avatar of Maschinengewehr

Posts: 334

Brummbar is pretty well balanced imo. It performs decently and the cost feels about right.
6 Sep 2015, 09:12 AM
#26
avatar of _underscore
Donator 33

Posts: 322

It does have a reputation as the troll unit to build once the game is already won. I think this is an unfair reputation in larger games where it's extremely powerful with appropriate positioning. What other unit has great AI, great AT (up to medium), great mobility (it's a race-car with vet), great armour, and moderate cost all in one package?

The weaknesses are:

-lack of turret (but it's fast and the jp4 also manages fine with no turret)
-facing heavies (axis generally doesn't have any AT issues in a combined army)

I hardly play now (internet) but mostly I went brummbar first every axis 4v4 since last year :D
6 Sep 2015, 09:19 AM
#27
avatar of Corsin

Posts: 600

Cant have an anti-infantry assault gun killing infantry now can we?
7 Sep 2015, 20:34 PM
#28
avatar of GLBZ

Posts: 54

it's nothing in comparison to OP AT gun of usf/ukf...
every my game as soviets i wish to trow away useless zis and get some real op like qf6
7 Sep 2015, 20:48 PM
#29
avatar of Appleseed

Posts: 622

Brummbar indeed needs nerf, every time i build it just A key to enemy base and game will be done in few mins.
7 Sep 2015, 20:55 PM
#30
avatar of Alexzandvar

Posts: 4951 | Subs: 1

Hilariously the stealth AoE nerf to the Sturmpanzer IV made it so it's AoE is actually worse at killing infantry than most normal tanks lol.
7 Sep 2015, 23:03 PM
#31
avatar of RetroInferno

Posts: 59

Honestly even at 160 fuel and locked behind T4 it's way too cheap; I played UFK a lot and it's very frustrating to counter this unit with anything but a Comet, and even then it's a close fight.

7 Sep 2015, 23:10 PM
#32
avatar of AchtAchter

Posts: 1604 | Subs: 3

Image of Relics Think tank when they gave the churchill 1600 hp for 150 fuel. While the Brummbär remains at 640 hp for 160 fuel.




The Brummbärs dps is insane with 1000 pen and 70 range gun, I suggest it gets at least the sturmtiger feature with manual reload + decrewing.
7 Sep 2015, 23:37 PM
#33
avatar of sigah

Posts: 100

Brummbär is OP. It should be atleast! 300 Fuel. If not it needs a drastic decrease in speed, acceleration, health, armor, rof, damage, aoe and penetration!
8 Sep 2015, 05:30 AM
#34
avatar of atouba

Posts: 482

Brummbar is pretty well balanced imo. It performs decently and the cost feels about right.

T3476. 80fuel
T3485. 130fuel
Churchil. 155fuel
Firefly. 155fuel

Comet. 12pop
T3476. 8pop

And the GREAT Brumbar:160fuel 14pop
Not to mention the GREAT T4 fuel cost.
Well the cost feels right!
LOL......
8 Sep 2015, 05:35 AM
#35
avatar of Hon3ynuts

Posts: 818

For only 20 fuel less than the Croc you can have a tank that performs almost as well offensively as the 15 fuel WASP.

Will the spam ever stop? Relic please fix the Brumbar today
8 Sep 2015, 06:11 AM
#36
avatar of Storm

Posts: 32

For only 20 fuel less than the Croc you can have a tank that performs almost as well offensively as the 15 fuel WASP.

Will the spam ever stop? Relic please fix the Brumbar today


Pretty sure the wasp is deadlier to infantry as well :(
8 Sep 2015, 06:20 AM
#37
avatar of BeefSurge

Posts: 1891

IMO brumbar should AA
8 Sep 2015, 07:13 AM
#38
avatar of RMMLz

Posts: 1802 | Subs: 1

IMO brumbar should AA
:clap::clap::clap:

Btw its top gunner does.
8 Sep 2015, 07:14 AM
#39
avatar of steel

Posts: 1963 | Subs: 1

IMO brumbar should AA
Plane-busting barrage for vet 1. :sibHyena:
8 Sep 2015, 07:26 AM
#40
avatar of Kreatiir

Posts: 2819

Dudes, if you really want to nerf a unit that's barely seen and can't hit shit on moving targets (just freakin kite it), that's really sad.

Does it is successful against static targets? Yes. It also has a fairly long reload time so when you see it firing, you have enough time to reposition. It also has a huge cost and by the time it hits the field, you should already have enough AT to keep it at distance and to reliably counter it.

This is a L2P issue, nothing more.
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