Only the most die hard fanboys would argue the bofors is not op. Just the same guys that said initial Tiger Ace is not op or that a Puma wiping garrisons with aimed shot is not op.
It's getting nerfed, get a long and cream your hurt butts.
Bofors needs a nerf against infantry
8 Sep 2015, 09:08 AM
#161
Posts: 1604 | Subs: 3
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8 Sep 2015, 09:11 AM
#162
Posts: 2819
Explain "Mr. Knowledgeable expert". Since your fine with throwing labels at people to make yourself feel better.
If you allow the brit player to get enough mp the get a bofors? you did something wrong.
If you let an immoble emppalcement lose you the game? you are doing something wrong.
It that simple
now "Mr. Knowledgeable expert", ill ask again, Where is the MP coming from?
Oh and one more thing...
Thanks for calling me an expert, though I don't deserve that title man
. I think you are the expert because wow, dat explanation about bofors and people doing something wrong if the opponent has the chance to build one. - magnificent. 
If you allow the brit player to get enough mp the get a bofors? you did something wrong.
All posts made are about situations in 2v2's. Not a 1v1 player.
8 Sep 2015, 09:22 AM
#163
Posts: 1604 | Subs: 3
dat explanation about bofors and people doing something wrong if the opponent has the
You haven't won 500 - 0 by the 15 minute mark? You did something wrong l2p all units are fine gtfo of balance threads
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8 Sep 2015, 09:28 AM
#164
Posts: 2819
You haven't won 500 - 0 by the 15 minute mark? You did something wrong l2p all units are fine gtfo of balance threads
k sry i'l let miself out
All posts made are about situations in 2v2's. Not a 1v1 player.
8 Sep 2015, 09:54 AM
#165
Posts: 2280 | Subs: 2
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Do you expect to just build a ton of MP units, fail to put any thought into planning your build, then complain that you run out of MP at the 5-8 minute mark to build a potentially game-winning emplacement? Or do you take horrifically bad engagements and bleed MP out the nose instead of retreating? Either way, you can't expect people to take you seriously.
Also, saying that an immobile emplacement cannot win you the game? I'd like to quote someone you might know:
Comparing OKW, a mp float faction against brits, a mp deficient faction.
OKW and OST have easy access to indirect fire. On top of this, they get more mp out or thier units early and mid game than brits do.
Try better next time
As for the OKw t4 and med truck. Yes it is op. AGAINST USF. Because the y lack access to indirect fire. Again, something that OKW an d Ost dont have an issue with.
Dont take my words outa context to make your shitty points again.
Thanks for calling me an expert, though I don't deserve that title man
You let brits get to your cutoff with a borfors and set it up?
Play better.
There is no recording in all WW2 history of a piat actually knocking off a vehicle. Yes, it was THAT bad.
8 Sep 2015, 10:26 AM
#166
Posts: 2819
You let brits get to your cutoff with a borfors and set it up?
Play better.
Awww seems you have a hard time reading my posts.
I'll quote myself here;
It's just sick easy to lock down a fuelpoint in the early stages of the game.
Or is it a shame that the opponent has one of the two fuelpoints?
And now back to you, I look forward to read your angry posts.
All posts made are about situations in 2v2's. Not a 1v1 player.
8 Sep 2015, 11:36 AM
#167
Posts: 4951 | Subs: 1
As for the OKw t4 and med truck. Yes it is op. AGAINST USF. Because the y lack access to indirect fire.
USF has just as much access to indirect fire as OKW has.
8 Sep 2015, 11:44 AM
#168
Posts: 1930
USF has just as much access to indirect fire as OKW has.
The LeIG's accuracy have been buff and the stuka is as powerful as ever.
I actually haven't seen anyone building the Pack howie yet, and the priest is locked behind a doc.
8 Sep 2015, 12:09 PM
#169
Posts: 17914 | Subs: 8
USF has just as much access to indirect fire as OKW has.
I must've missed USF mobile, pinpoint accurate barrage platform or cheap support gun with 100 range on default fire.
Could you help me out and show that options for USF as I've lost my glasses and can't find anything that would be even remotely similar to OKW indirect fire on the USF side.
Maybe it's 'cause the Axis players aren't a bunch of forum crybabies, and they keep their cool and fight the uphill battle, unlike some of their "allied" counterparts.
8 Sep 2015, 12:40 PM
#170
Posts: 959
The only thing bofor doesn't need is nerfing. It is actually very useless against (specially) Ost player who knows how to p.lay t.his g.ame. Even as OKW, don't try to in.vest on stuka, it's not gonna kill it (at least at the current patch), get ISG and bofor is either gone or constantly forced to brace.
Well, imo it's too fragile to indirect fire
Well, imo it's too fragile to indirect fire
8 Sep 2015, 12:44 PM
#171
Posts: 218
I build the Pack Howitzer whenever I play USF. It's not QUITE as good as the LeIG, but it can still create a great beaten/kill zone against enemy infantry and win you a match if you get it set up in the proper spot.
The LeIG's accuracy have been buff and the stuka is as powerful as ever.
I actually haven't seen anyone building the Pack howie yet, and the priest is locked behind a doc.
Don't forget the HMC either, that thing is amazing.
8 Sep 2015, 12:49 PM
#172
Posts: 4928
I'm just sad they removed the howitzer explosion effect from the pack howitzer.
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8 Sep 2015, 12:54 PM
#173
Posts: 4951 | Subs: 1
The LeIG's accuracy have been buff and the stuka is as powerful as ever.
I actually haven't seen anyone building the Pack howie yet, and the priest is locked behind a doc.
The Pack Howi got ninja buffs just like the ISG did, and the Stuka Zu Fuss isn't very attainable in 1v1 or 2v2 scenarios. The buffs the Priest and Infantry Company in general has/will receive will put it in the forefront of useful doctrines.
Basically right now USF and OKW are standing about on equal terms indirect fire wise, new commanders non-withstanding.
I must've missed USF mobile, pinpoint accurate barrage platform or cheap support gun with 100 range on default fire.
The Pack Howi still has better AoE, and is only slightly less accurate now. They are both extremely worth the investment now. They both have the same angle scatter of six, the ISG just has a distance scatter of 5 compared to the 8 of the Pack. But since the Pack has a larger AoE the end result is about the same.
The Pack Howi also has much better Vet, for what it's worth.
Could you help me out and show that options for USF as I've lost my glasses and can't find anything that would be even remotely similar to OKW indirect fire on the USF side.
Most OKW players would kill for something like the Priest that could attack enemy positions AND deny territory in a way the Stuka cannot. Hummel pls Relic
8 Sep 2015, 13:01 PM
#174
Posts: 17914 | Subs: 8
I'm just sad they removed the howitzer explosion effect from the pack howitzer.
I only wish they have made it either have 100 range on default fire or 6 shells on barrage, one of these two and it would be a nice piece of gear to have with CLEAR role and use.
Personally I'd go with barrage option as it would be something different.
Maybe it's 'cause the Axis players aren't a bunch of forum crybabies, and they keep their cool and fight the uphill battle, unlike some of their "allied" counterparts.
8 Sep 2015, 13:52 PM
#175
Posts: 2396 | Subs: 1
Hummel pls Relic
Yep, hummel would fit in now. I would see it rather doctrinal, though. But not performing like lefh. We definetly don't need another piece of pudding.
BeefSurge wrote:
A lot of people have an image of how they want a faction to play, leading to problems. This is why you have people complaining about lack of Soviet bunkers, why T34/76 sucks, why Cons don't scale, Grens don't get normal grenades, Muricans don't get heavy tank, OKW laser weapons and Die Glock Death Bell, etc.
A lot of people have an image of how they want a faction to play, leading to problems. This is why you have people complaining about lack of Soviet bunkers, why T34/76 sucks, why Cons don't scale, Grens don't get normal grenades, Muricans don't get heavy tank, OKW laser weapons and Die Glock Death Bell, etc.
8 Sep 2015, 14:28 PM
#176
Posts: 1653
Only the most die hard fanboys would argue the bofors is not op. Just the same guys that said initial Tiger Ace is not op or that a Puma wiping garrisons with aimed shot is not op.
It's getting nerfed, get a long and cream your hurt butts.
Never had the Puma wiping with aimed shot since I've never tried it, but surely will do that now Kappa
8 Sep 2015, 14:31 PM
#177
Posts: 17914 | Subs: 8
Never had the Puma wiping with aimed shot since I've never tried it, but surely will do that now Kappa
You're 10 months late for the party.
Maybe it's 'cause the Axis players aren't a bunch of forum crybabies, and they keep their cool and fight the uphill battle, unlike some of their "allied" counterparts.
8 Sep 2015, 14:34 PM
#178
Posts: 1653
I must've missed USF mobile, pinpoint accurate barrage platform or cheap support gun with 100 range on default fire.
Could you help me out and show that options for USF as I've lost my glasses and can't find anything that would be even remotely similar to OKW indirect fire on the USF side.
I have to say that the Pack Howie is still super strong. Although the LeIG is currently a
in the face
8 Sep 2015, 14:40 PM
#179
Posts: 2280 | Subs: 2
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Awww seems you have a hard time reading my posts.
I'll quote myself here;
Or is it a shame that the opponent has one of the two fuelpoints?
And now back to you, I look forward to read your angry posts.
You obviously havent touched brits. There is no way you could have enough MP for an early game bofors. Its not possible, unless you played bad.
There is no recording in all WW2 history of a piat actually knocking off a vehicle. Yes, it was THAT bad.
8 Sep 2015, 15:17 PM
#180
Posts: 3602 | Subs: 1
I like the idea someone proposed earlier: make an emplacement reactivation from Brace requiring an Engi squad. Brace could also lose its stat over time forcing UKF to counter attack to get it back before destruction (but remove the timer and colddown). This would remove some funny situation where you push over the Bofor under Brace but cannot take it because of Brace and see your infantry getting wiped because its reactivate in the middle of your army.
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