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Brits are the most UP and broken faction of COH2.
We'll see when after the Sep3 winrates .. my guess is they will be far below usf even in 1v1.
What's the point of nerfing units if the whole faction is not capable of winning a match?
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Ok so after playing a bunch of games last night as brits and as axis the follow change requirements seem abit obvious to me.
- HMG team i think needs to be a tad cheaper. Brits seem to lack field presence a little too much early game (260 should be fine).
- Commando Dps... Sten guns currently fire the equiv 2000 rounds per min. (Ask Cruzz) This makes them way too effective in close quaters instantly murdering anything within 10m.
- AVRE - Able to 1 shot panthers, basically a Sturmtiger with a smaller explosion but with alot faster rate of fire, no vulnerability during reload and a turret.
Before Burts flys in with his "They cant 1 shot panthers" https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lz8bT_97dOQ he can watch that and SHHH.
- Tulip rockets... I think theyre an awesome idea but maybe need turning down a little. The abiliy to basically kill a P4 in 1 round of fire from main-gun and rockets doesnt leave the P4 much chance to get away.
- Brace defenses. I think the damage reduction on this ability is maybe a tad too good.
- Commando commander air-raid. This ability can currently 1 shot OKW trucks and often does. needs toning down.
- Wasp flamethrower crit kills far too fast and too often atm but i assume this will be fixed on the 3rd with the flamer mechanics being tweaked again.
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Brits are the most UP and broken faction of COH2.
We'll see when after the Sep3 winrates .. my guess is they will be far below usf even in 1v1.
What's the point of nerfing units if the whole faction is not capable of winning a match?
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umm avre cost less,and have much better armor and health and on top of that this ridiclulous vet
Veterancy Levels:
Rank 1 – Crew experience allows for faster reloading of the powerful Petard mortar.
Rank 2 – Veteran crews can maneuver the vehicle more quickly and aim the turret faster.
Rank 3 – The Petard mortar is fitted with an even higher yield of explosives and creates a firestorm when it explodes. Additionally, the crew will repair engine-related criticals on their own after a short time.
is just a l2p issue ffs.. ukf is fine
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So i assume youre agreeing with me? lol
Cant wait to see what it does to tigers with Soviet Marked Vehicle in 2v2s trololol.
I havnt lost a single game as brits or as axis vs brits. Ive won 9 games as UKF and around 5-6 as Axis... Has nothing to do with l2p since ive not lost anything. Its feedback from both sides from someone who won with both sides you plank.
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So i assume youre agreeing with me? lol
Cant wait to see what it does to tigers with Soviet Marked Vehicle in 2v2s trololol.
I havnt lost a single game as brits or as axis vs brits. Ive won 9 games as UKF and around 5-6 as Axis... Has nothing to do with l2p since ive not lost anything. Its feedback from both sides from someone who won with both sides you plank.
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Did you have the pleasure to face 2 Snipers already
yes i am agreeing with you people bringing sturmtiger in the context dont even take in that how much ridicule the avre even compare to how much ridicule they think sturmtiger ( which no one gaved a shit about for the past 1 year hmm i wonder).
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Yeah, faced that twice so far. First time i got lucky with my rifle squads which in cover counter shot one of their snipers, and my mortar bunker killed the other somewhere during the fighting.
Second time i had my own sniper and just used engineers (nice and cheap) to bait the pr0steer snipers into fireing, then counter sniping, good old coh1 style.
I agree tho ost snipers are really potent vs brits.
Right?
Something 1 shotting allied tanks "OP"
Something cheaper and tougher, fireing more often and can be combind with an ability liked marked target in team games... 1 shotting axis tanks (including OKW a more fuel starved faction) totally fair.
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Sturmtiger can also be combined the the command panthers mark vehicle. With it sturmtiger would do 960 damage, AVRE with mark target would do 864.
But honestly, how are you getting your tanks hit by the AVRE? I mean, it has the same sight range as your tank, and a very long aiming time...
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Maybe it's 'cause the Axis players aren't a bunch of forum crybabies, and they keep their cool and fight the uphill battle, unlike some of their "allied" counterparts.
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Coulda dodged it but wanted to test it.
And tbh that applies with the Stiger too which takes longer to fire.
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Its just hilarious seeing people after less then 24 hours of trial with different balance then what we'll have in 3 days acting like pros after handful of games
How about you stop with rudiculous threads and claims, let the faction be released with all the changes that will go live at 3rd, LEARN TO FUCKING PLAY WITH AND AGAINST BRITS and then talk about balance?
Balance perspective changes depending if you're clueless noobs or experienced with them players.
For now vast majority are clueless noobs.
AVRE does 640 damage, at vet3 leaves flaming DoT and there are actually morons trying to say it deals more then that, because "fuck people who played WEEKS with brits, I know more about my 3 games then them with 100+ hours on brits".
The difference between the AVRE and sturmtiger is that the sturmtiger can shoot much farther than it can see (45 range vs 35 sight range)
Most tanks in game have a view range of 35 sight range. This means, that a sturmtiger can shoot its rocket BEFORE it is spotted.
This is the main difference between a sturmtiger and the AVRE.
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I havnt lost a single game as brits or as axis vs brits.
it works to both sides. Posts: 600
so stop crying gentleman.
avre = sturmtiger, if you can't handle > rage quit
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My place in the ladder is irrelevant as long as I am matched with opponents of the same rank and play all factions (balance at place 1000+ is no different from balance in top 100 if we consider what I said before the brakets) so I don't care about your assertion which is also irrelevant.
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