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Relic has no idea how to balance.

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7 Aug 2015, 06:10 AM
#21
avatar of The Red Death

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USF is quite more heavily reliant on RNG than the other factions i have to admit im just hoping that relic does something about it


This is very true. My best faction is USF and the RNG is strong with it lol.
7 Aug 2015, 06:28 AM
#22
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Move along everyone, move along.
7 Aug 2015, 07:00 AM
#23
avatar of The Big Red 1

Posts: 758

Move along everyone, move alone.

move along how? right now axis still currently hog and hoard all of the best AT, armor and infantry in-game not mention they dont have to worry about RNG as much as USF does
7 Aug 2015, 07:27 AM
#24
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move along how? right now axis still currently hog and hoard all of the best AT, armor and infantry in-game not mention they dont have to worry about RNG as much as USF does


Hahahahahah

-IS2
-T70
-SU85
-Shocks

7 Aug 2015, 07:30 AM
#25
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Posts: 1891


move along how? right now axis still currently hog and hoard all of the best AT, armor and infantry in-game not mention they dont have to worry about RNG as much as USF does


I'll break it down for you because you seem lost.

INFANTRY

Best basic-Riflemen and Grens are tied.

Best nondoc shock-Penals

Best nondoc elite-Obers

Best doctrinal elite-Guards/shocks own

Best doctrinal basic-Ostruppen

Best doctrinal recon-JLI

Best AT infantry-Volks

Best AI infantry-Paras

Best utility infantry-Guards

Best spam infantry-Pfusies

best engineer...um idk.

SUPPORT WEAPONS

-MG42/Maxim tied

-Snipers tied

-German mortar owns

-Pak owns

VEHICLES

Best light transport-M3A1

Best scout car-222

Best halftrack-QUAD

Best light tank-T70

Best SU-76M-SU-76M

TANKS

Best low end non doc medium-Sherman

Best high end non doc medium-OKW P4

Best doctrinal medium-T34/85

Best nondoc heavy-lol

Best doctrinal heavy-IS2

Best WTF unit-Sturmtiger

TANK DESTROYERS

Best nondoc light TD-Stug

Best nondoc heavy TD-JP4

Best doctrinal light TD-Wolverine

Best doctrinal heavy TD-Elefant man

ARTILLERY

Best MLRS-Katuysha

Best heavy arty-ML20

TECHING

Flexibility to cheapness>

Ost, USF, Sovs, OKW




7 Aug 2015, 07:44 AM
#26
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Posts: 493

They analyze 'data' and make changes which means taking away your favorite strategies again and again.
7 Aug 2015, 07:46 AM
#27
avatar of Tristan44

Posts: 915



I'll break it down for you because you seem lost.

INFANTRY

Best basic-Riflemen and Grens are tied.

Best nondoc shock-Penals

Best nondoc elite-Obers

Best doctrinal elite-Guards/shocks own

Best doctrinal basic-Ostruppen

Best doctrinal recon-JLI

Best AT infantry-Volks

Best AI infantry-Paras

Best utility infantry-Guards

Best spam infantry-Pfusies

best engineer...um idk.

SUPPORT WEAPONS

-MG42/Maxim tied

-Snipers tied

-German mortar owns

-Pak owns

VEHICLES

Best light transport-M3A1

Best scout car-222

Best halftrack-QUAD

Best light tank-T70

Best SU-76M-SU-76M

TANKS

Best low end non doc medium-Sherman

Best high end non doc medium-OKW P4

Best doctrinal medium-T34/85

Best nondoc heavy-lol

Best doctrinal heavy-IS2

Best WTF unit-Sturmtiger

TANK DESTROYERS

Best nondoc light TD-Stug

Best nondoc heavy TD-JP4

Best doctrinal light TD-Wolverine

Best doctrinal heavy TD-Elefant man

ARTILLERY

Best MLRS-Katuysha

Best heavy arty-ML20

TECHING

Flexibility to cheapness>

Ost, USF, Sovs, OKW







Err... This based on factual statistical evidence or just opinion?
7 Aug 2015, 07:48 AM
#28
avatar of FestiveLongJohns
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move along how? right now axis still currently hog and hoard all of the best AT, armor and infantry in-game not mention they dont have to worry about RNG as much as USF does


You've been regurgitating this:
axis still currently hog and hoard all of the best AT, armor and infantry in-game
in every single thread you post in for about a week now.

The game is more diverse and interesting than it has been in a long time, and the fact is that RNG and balance issues only tip the scales of a game at the highest of skill levels. There isn't a game of COH2 that you have played to date that couldn't have been won through better play on your part. The sooner you accept that and stop blaming the game, the more you'll enjoy it. Until then, please stop spamming the forums with your repetitive, inane bull shit.
7 Aug 2015, 07:50 AM
#29
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Posts: 440



I'll break it down for you because you seem lost.

INFANTRY

Best basic-Riflemen and Grens are tied.

Best nondoc shock-Penals

Best nondoc elite-Obers

Best doctrinal elite-Guards/shocks own

Best doctrinal basic-Ostruppen

Best doctrinal recon-JLI

Best AT infantry-Volks

Best AI infantry-Paras

Best utility infantry-Guards

Best spam infantry-Pfusies

best engineer...um idk.

SUPPORT WEAPONS

-MG42/Maxim tied

-Snipers tied

-German mortar owns

-Pak owns

VEHICLES

Best light transport-M3A1

Best scout car-222

Best halftrack-QUAD

Best light tank-T70

Best SU-76M-SU-76M

TANKS

Best low end non doc medium-Sherman

Best high end non doc medium-OKW P4

Best doctrinal medium-T34/85

Best nondoc heavy-lol

Best doctrinal heavy-IS2

Best WTF unit-Sturmtiger

TANK DESTROYERS

Best nondoc light TD-Stug

Best nondoc heavy TD-JP4

Best doctrinal light TD-Wolverine

Best doctrinal heavy TD-Elefant man

ARTILLERY

Best MLRS-Katuysha

Best heavy arty-ML20

TECHING

Flexibility to cheapness>

Ost, USF, Sovs, OKW






I stopped at 'Best basic-Riflemen and Grens are tied.'
7 Aug 2015, 07:51 AM
#30
avatar of KurtWilde
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Posts: 440


move along how? right now axis still currently hog and hoard all of the best AT, armor and infantry in-game not mention they dont have to worry about RNG as much as USF does


USF is in a shitty place, yes. But the balance overall is good, the best so far.
7 Aug 2015, 07:57 AM
#31
avatar of The Big Red 1

Posts: 758



You've been regurgitating this: in every single thread you post in for about a week now.

The game is more diverse and interesting than it has been in a long time, and the fact is that RNG and balance issues only tip the scales of a game at the highest of skill levels. There isn't a game of COH2 that you have played to date that couldn't have been won through better play on your part. The sooner you accept that and stop blaming the game, the more you'll enjoy it. Until then, please stop spamming the forums with your repetitive, inane bull shit.

i can see how you arrived at that conclusion but i disagree
7 Aug 2015, 08:04 AM
#32
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Posts: 1157 | Subs: 2


i can see how you arrived at that conclusion but i disagree


You've played less than 60 automatch games in total. This forum doesn't need anymore completely uninformed balance whine threads from players that simply don't have enough experience in the game to pass judgement on Relic.

At this point I can only assume you're trolling :foreveralone:
7 Aug 2015, 08:12 AM
#33
avatar of DonnieChan

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omg i can only hope relic doesn't listen to guys like this and that it's not the majority
7 Aug 2015, 08:16 AM
#34
avatar of Australian Magic

Posts: 4630 | Subs: 2

Balance was never better than now. Just reduce RoF of Quad and buff SC armor a bit.
7 Aug 2015, 08:28 AM
#35
avatar of samich

Posts: 205



I'll break it down for you because you seem lost.

INFANTRY

Best basic-Riflemen and Grens are tied.



err...
7 Aug 2015, 08:42 AM
#36
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Posts: 830

jump backJump back to quoted post7 Aug 2015, 08:28 AMsamich


err...


I think he meant tied as in even levels op potency during the game. Riflemen very potent in early game, not so in late game, grens not so potent in early game, but very potent in late game with lmg.

If not for this explanation, I can't make anything out of it otherwise :sibHyena:
7 Aug 2015, 08:47 AM
#37
avatar of samich

Posts: 205



I think he meant tied as in even levels op potency during the game. Riflemen very potent in early game, not so in late game, grens not so potent in early game, but very potent in late game with lmg.

If not for this explanation, I can't make anything out of it otherwise :sibHyena:


If you could pick from the starting infantry you'd pick :

grenadiers > conscripts > volks > rifles
7 Aug 2015, 08:53 AM
#38
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Posts: 830

jump backJump back to quoted post7 Aug 2015, 08:47 AMsamich


If you could pick from the starting infantry you'd pick :

grenadiers > conscripts > volks > rifles


Well If I could pick within certain game periods:

Early game --> Riflemen
Mid game --> Grens
Late game --> Grens
7 Aug 2015, 09:00 AM
#39
avatar of kamk
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Posts: 764

jump backJump back to quoted post7 Aug 2015, 08:47 AMsamich


If you could pick from the starting infantry you'd pick :

grenadiers > conscripts > volks > rifles

And what about Penals, SPios, RE, Pios, Engies, etc. pp?

Synergy and faction design is also important. Imagine 42s with Cons & merge - that'd be "fun". Or Rifles having "one click" access to LMG42. Or Volks getting double Bar, smokes, and snares.
And...so...on.
7 Aug 2015, 09:47 AM
#40
avatar of TheEvilAdventurer

Posts: 188

The guy with LESS THAN TEN automatch games certainly experienced to talk about balance. Just L2P dude...
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