First off, good job on the last patch!
Now, we know MGs got buffed yadda yadda and smoke barrages are a suggested counterplay.
Mortar smoke barrages look cool as hell and for the old factions they are the only nondoctrinal way to work with smoke.
But they are too slow.
Please crank up the speed and make them deploy faster form click to a smoke wall so we can use them dynamically in tank batte etc!
RELIC please make MORTAR SMOKE barrages quicker
28 Jul 2015, 23:00 PM
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28 Jul 2015, 23:27 PM
#2
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I'd start with fixing the bug that causes them to not fire and then make the smoke apply along a line you choose fairly reliably, like a Walking Stuka barrage.
Then, maybe make em' faster. But I'd be very happy if just the first two happened already.
Then, maybe make em' faster. But I'd be very happy if just the first two happened already.
29 Jul 2015, 04:11 AM
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Yes, this is good.
I have never seen OST use smoke ever, likely because I am a scrub.
But also because mortar smoke is just way too slow.
I have never seen OST use smoke ever, likely because I am a scrub.
But also because mortar smoke is just way too slow.
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29 Jul 2015, 04:35 AM
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Yes please! They just need to increase projectile speed to make it a bit more responsive.
29 Jul 2015, 08:57 AM
#5
Posts: 509
+1 absolutely. Fix the bug. Make them fire in a line. And quicker. Absolutely.
29 Jul 2015, 09:26 AM
#6
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Absolutely.
Smoke barage is freakin' awesome, but not used that much cause of the extremely slow execution.
I think you can use them already perfectly for attacks, but for getting out of sticky situations, it's too slow.
+1
Smoke barage is freakin' awesome, but not used that much cause of the extremely slow execution.
I think you can use them already perfectly for attacks, but for getting out of sticky situations, it's too slow.
+1
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29 Jul 2015, 09:27 AM
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+1
Nothing more to add here.
Nothing more to add here.
29 Jul 2015, 09:44 AM
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29 Jul 2015, 09:51 AM
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+1
29 Jul 2015, 09:53 AM
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+1, bug fix, faster.
For my part, not line deployment, too much of a 1 click counter to too many things.
For my part, not line deployment, too much of a 1 click counter to too many things.
29 Jul 2015, 09:53 AM
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+1
Go ahead Relic. You may proceed.
Go ahead Relic. You may proceed.
29 Jul 2015, 10:23 AM
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+1
29 Jul 2015, 10:37 AM
#13
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Yep, very needed fix. I like to use smoke barrage but sometimes its so slow that i attack without smoke support.
29 Jul 2015, 10:41 AM
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Yep, very needed fix. I like to use smoke barrage but sometimes its so slow that i attack without smoke support.
Agreed, never seen OST smoke ever lol.
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29 Jul 2015, 10:45 AM
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I believe a lot of the delay comes from the mortar having to reface or set up again to fire the smoke barrage. Not a lot can be done about that but it would be nice if relic made the smoke fire instantly once the mortar was in the correct position.
29 Jul 2015, 23:42 PM
#16
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I'll play devil's advocate. Instead of using smoke defensively (hence not being able to stop a pin from an advanced MG), you use smoke offensively. So for example one unit scouts out the MGs position, then fire the smoke, then move up the rest of the troops.
For what it's worth I think the mortars have to load a different type of ammo to shoot the smoke, which also adds to the delay (I could be wrong here).
For what it's worth I think the mortars have to load a different type of ammo to shoot the smoke, which also adds to the delay (I could be wrong here).
30 Jul 2015, 02:08 AM
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it's even worse when the mortar is suppressed. i triggered it on a house with a maxim in it, went away for 10 seconds and came back to see no smoke and the mortar firing. turned out it was the first shell.
30 Jul 2015, 02:44 AM
#18
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Maybe a few seconds faster. It gives you just enough time to see the smoke and re-position an MG, any faster and it will not give the MG user the opportunity to re-position and set-up.
While we're at it, can we please let US Shermans fire smoke on the move? This has been a pet peeve of mine since alpha.
While we're at it, can we please let US Shermans fire smoke on the move? This has been a pet peeve of mine since alpha.
30 Jul 2015, 03:03 AM
#19
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One idea I had was that the mortar team actually shows its field of fire, much like an MG team. The constant need to re-position because the angle isn't quite right really slows this unit down in a way that dulls its effectiveness.
Firing smoke in a line is a great idea, and in combination with the above change, would allow you to actually make an infantry push or flank under smoke. And please, please fix the "no-fire" bug that's been lingering.
Firing smoke in a line is a great idea, and in combination with the above change, would allow you to actually make an infantry push or flank under smoke. And please, please fix the "no-fire" bug that's been lingering.
30 Jul 2015, 03:07 AM
#20
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While we're at it, can we please let US Shermans fire smoke on the move? This has been a pet peeve of mine since alpha.
They DO fire on the move, its just that activating the ability halts the tank, meaning you have to recommand it to move.
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