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25 Jul 2015, 15:07 PM
#101
avatar of voltardark

Posts: 976



You literally watched a stream of a USF player beating high ranked opponents and your still staying this?


It's not really about power it's rather about fun. USF is by far the less fun faction to play.

In a game the fun factor is what matter the most.

Thanks.
25 Jul 2015, 15:31 PM
#102
avatar of Burts

Posts: 1702



You literally watched a stream of a USF player beating high ranked opponents and your still staying this?



One game proves nothing. Angreifein played badly that game, and lost. Heres an example you will obviously understand. Just because the quad rush is OP doesn't mean it's unbeatable. I'm sure you have beaten a quadrush in many of your axis games.


Point is, USF is completely hopeless this patch. A tourney seems to be coming up, and it will prove it.


For now, im eagerly waiting for dusty to show his pro USF skills, unfortunately he doesn't even have time to play a single USF game.


Axis MGs are simply far too cost effective vs USF , being able to completely shut down rifleman play left and right, and rifle scaling is very poor.

Atleast relic said they are looking into rifleman scaling/USF in general.
25 Jul 2015, 15:38 PM
#103
avatar of Alexzandvar

Posts: 4951 | Subs: 1



It's not really about power it's rather about fun. USF is by far the less fun faction to play.

In a game the fun factor is what matter the most.

Thanks.


Well yeah USF IS not fun to play, I'm not denying that.

One game proves nothing. Angreifein played badly that game, and lost. Heres an example you will obviously understand. Just because the quad rush is OP doesn't mean it's unbeatable. I'm sure you have beaten a quadrush in many of your axis games.


Yes, but I'm not here saying the Quad mount has literally destroyed the game for me.

Point is, USF is completely hopeless this patch. A tourney seems to be coming up, and it will prove it.


okay?

Axis MGs are simply far too cost effective vs USF , being able to completely shut down rifleman play left and right, and rifle scaling is very poor.


MG's are effective at shutting down blobbing, yes.

Atleast relic said they are looking into rifleman scaling/USF in general.


good.
25 Jul 2015, 16:00 PM
#104
avatar of Burts

Posts: 1702



Well yeah USF IS not fun to play, I'm not denying that.



Yes, but I'm not here saying the Quad mount has literally destroyed the game for me.



okay?



MG's are effective at shutting down blobbing, yes.



good.




Effective at shutting down "blobbing" point is, Mgs are just as effective againts single squads as they are againts blobs. Too effective infact. It's too easy to shutdown flanks with repositioning MGs. So i really have no idea what you are blabbering about "blobbing".
I'm not saying that the game is destroyed for me, i still happily play all the other factions, and USF too.
25 Jul 2015, 16:07 PM
#105
avatar of BeefSurge

Posts: 1891

Playing as the USF makes me appreciate the Soviets. Such a fun, powerful, (cheesy) army in comparison.

BTW: can everyone saying USF is currently the best 1 vs 1 faction provide some replays, or evidence, or something?
25 Jul 2015, 16:09 PM
#106
avatar of iTzDusty

Posts: 836 | Subs: 5



Show us then, stream usf and show all us how to play.


What did I literally do for you two days ago. And that wasn't one game, that was like 9.
25 Jul 2015, 16:14 PM
#107
avatar of QueenRatchet123

Posts: 2280 | Subs: 2

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What did I literally do for you two days ago. And that wasn't one game, that was like 9.


7 were against either noobs or unranked scrubs. sorry.
25 Jul 2015, 16:19 PM
#108
avatar of BeefSurge

Posts: 1891

Couldnt watch his stream, is Dusty doing anything special outside of really good Rifle play and early racks?

25 Jul 2015, 16:22 PM
#109
avatar of QueenRatchet123

Posts: 2280 | Subs: 2

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Here's the sitution:

Mg42 = OVER BUFFED

sniper = BUFFED

222 = BUFFED FOR NO REASON

Ost stating mp = BUFFED

okw t4 = BUFFED

sturms = BUFFED

ez8 = NURFED

aa ht = NURFED

elite rifles = NURFED

m8 = NURFED

major = NURFED

scott = NURFED

volley fired = (valid) NURFED

pak howie = NURFED

What usf needs

50.cal, 57mm and mortar NEED TO BE IN T1

50cal cost to 240mp

60mm mortar 240mp

57mm unlocked after LT or Capt is researched

BAM! USF FIXED

Edit: revert the 222 changes, m20 is obsolete. Oh and lets not forget rifles NEED to SCALE BETTER!!!


25 Jul 2015, 16:24 PM
#110
avatar of BeefSurge

Posts: 1891

You forgot bazooka damage buff :P
25 Jul 2015, 16:26 PM
#111
avatar of Burts

Posts: 1702



What did I literally do for you two days ago. And that wasn't one game, that was like 9.



Well, hopefully you can show us some more of that, because im still completely at a loss...
25 Jul 2015, 16:27 PM
#112
avatar of Mittens
Donator 11

Posts: 1276

The only thing USF rly has is like.....riflemen and paras. Other than that everything else is pretty lack luster.

The jackson dies in two hits, misses half the time, and is very hard to micro due to its pathfinding and lack of crush.

Sherman dies so fast due to shrek blobs and other AT options available.

Pack Howi is pretty awkward and sems to be on the same RNG level as the B4

Med truck is expensive and hard to field early game making the fragile riflemen (who already dont scale well) really hard to keep alive.




Overall USF needs something late game to keep them in the game. The faction excluding the riflemen has HUGE holes in how its played and often times just gets overwhelmed. Its not a L2P issue, its a scaling issue.
25 Jul 2015, 16:31 PM
#113
avatar of Alexzandvar

Posts: 4951 | Subs: 1

Here's the sitution:



lol of course you ignore all the nerfs OKW got.
25 Jul 2015, 16:33 PM
#114
avatar of Porygon

Posts: 2779

Here's the sitution:

Mg42 = OVER BUFFED

sniper = BUFFED

222 = BUFFED FOR NO REASON

Ost stating mp = BUFFED

okw t4 = BUFFED

sturms = BUFFED

ez8 = NURFED

aa ht = NURFED

elite rifles = NURFED

m8 = NURFED

major = NURFED

scott = NURFED

volley fired = (valid) NURFED

pak howie = NURFED

What usf needs

50.cal, 57mm and mortar NEED TO BE IN T1

50cal cost to 240mp

60mm mortar 240mp

57mm unlocked after LT or Capt is researched

BAM! USF FIXED

Edit: revert the 222 changes, m20 is obsolete. Oh and lets not forget rifles NEED to SCALE BETTER!!!




Your list is full of shit, far beyond exaggeration.
25 Jul 2015, 16:44 PM
#115
avatar of Omega_Warrior

Posts: 2561



Keep trying to deny the truth guys. You aren't fooling anyone but yourself.
25 Jul 2015, 16:45 PM
#116
avatar of QueenRatchet123

Posts: 2280 | Subs: 2

Permanently Banned


lol of course you ignore all the nerfs OKW got.


volks vet, obers, mg34, kt, jeagers, okw wire, income adjustments.

Thats eeeet
25 Jul 2015, 16:46 PM
#117
avatar of broodwarjc

Posts: 824

Here's the sitution:

Mg42 = OVER BUFFED

sniper = BUFFED

222 = BUFFED FOR NO REASON

Ost stating mp = BUFFED

okw t4 = BUFFED

sturms = BUFFED

ez8 = NURFED

aa ht = NURFED

elite rifles = NURFED

m8 = NURFED

major = NURFED

scott = NURFED

volley fired = (valid) NURFED

pak howie = NURFED

What usf needs

50.cal, 57mm and mortar NEED TO BE IN T1

50cal cost to 240mp

60mm mortar 240mp

57mm unlocked after LT or Capt is researched

BAM! USF FIXED

Edit: revert the 222 changes, m20 is obsolete. Oh and lets not forget rifles NEED to SCALE BETTER!!!




HaHaHa.... now post something with real thought.
25 Jul 2015, 16:56 PM
#118
avatar of Mittens
Donator 11

Posts: 1276



Keep trying to deny the truth guys. You aren't fooling anyone but yourself.


This
25 Jul 2015, 16:59 PM
#119
avatar of Burts

Posts: 1702

25 Jul 2015, 17:01 PM
#120
avatar of Ulaire Minya

Posts: 372



Keep trying to deny the truth guys. You aren't fooling anyone but yourself.
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