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Porygon
22 Jul 2015, 13:44 PM
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Before anyone crap out high risk high reward bullshit, sorry, ML20 can shoot into your base, while your offmap cannot shoot back.

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comm_ash
22 Jul 2015, 13:49 PM
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You can always go elite armor. You have a new and improved sturmtiger, as well as the panzer commander artillery that has always wiped artillery for me, and for only 120 mu.

It may not be ideal, but it's a possible counter until relic makes artillery work differently.

Be the cool guy. Go nonmeta. B-)
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Porygon
22 Jul 2015, 13:55 PM
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jump backJump back to quoted post22 Jul 2015, 13:49 PMcomm_ash
You can always go elite armor. You have a new and improved sturmtiger, as well as the panzer commander artillery that has always wiped artillery for me, and for only 120 mu.

It may not be ideal, but it's a possible counter until relic makes artillery work differently.

Be the cool guy. Go nonmeta. B-)


Well, if you can get a tank that deep into his base, why don't you nuke him with the sturmtiger? :)
The problem is, you can't. :)
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ElSlayer
22 Jul 2015, 13:57 PM
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jump backJump back to quoted post22 Jul 2015, 13:44 PMPorygon
Before anyone crap out high risk high reward bullshit, sorry, ML20 can shoot into your base, while your offmap cannot shoot back.

lel

You are not entirely correct.
On most 4v4 maps it can't if been built in your base sector.

Also - what "into your base" has to do with OKW?
Or you've meant not base sector, but trucks?
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Sully
22 Jul 2015, 13:57 PM
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jump backJump back to quoted post22 Jul 2015, 13:49 PMcomm_ash
You can always go elite armor. You have a new and improved sturmtiger, as well as the panzer commander artillery that has always wiped artillery for me, and for only 120 mu.

It may not be ideal, but it's a possible counter until relic makes artillery work differently.

Be the cool guy. Go nonmeta. B-)


OKW is supposed to suicide extremely expensive tanks into the soviet base just to maybe take out a 600MP unit?

ALL howies either need reduced range and/or be prevented from being built in base. I prefer the reduced range approach personally.
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Appleseed
22 Jul 2015, 13:58 PM
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maybe relic should give OKW buildings in the base a HP buff
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comm_ash
22 Jul 2015, 13:59 PM
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jump backJump back to quoted post22 Jul 2015, 13:55 PMPorygon


Well, if you can get a tank that deep into his base, why don't you nuke him with the sturmtiger? :)
The problem is, you can't. :)


Well, unfortunatly, okw doesn't have any better options against base arty. The scavenge arty is the only other one that works in base sectors, but you need Los for it anyways, plus it's quite expensive.

Stuka doesn't kill the gun so it only delays death by a few seconds.

I guess we can always wait for Goliath commander :creeper:
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PotatoMasher
22 Jul 2015, 14:10 PM
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pray that somebody in your team is a ostheer teammate using CAS, otherwise you are fucked
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22 Jul 2015, 15:07 PM
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Pray that they will just remove non 1v1 modes.












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voltardark
22 Jul 2015, 15:16 PM
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From the game i played and those i watched, OKW players are used to place their base (flak) aggressively to deny territory and win easily.

Maybe its time to be a bit more cautious?

Sure there is ml-20, but also at-gun howitzer mode, SU-76 or others.

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Katitof
22 Jul 2015, 15:36 PM
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You mean placing trucks forward in the field actually is risky now?
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Maybe it's 'cause the Axis players aren't a bunch of forum crybabies, and they keep their cool and fight the uphill battle, unlike some of their "allied" counterparts.
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22 Jul 2015, 15:40 PM
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jump backJump back to quoted post22 Jul 2015, 15:16 PMvoltardark
From the game i played and those i watched, OKW players are used to place their base (flak) aggressively to deny territory and win easily.

Maybe its time to be a bit more cautious?

Sure there is ml-20, but also at-gun howitzer mode, SU-76 or others.

Thanks.


Yes with that we agree, but being bombed out of your HQ, just because Soviets get a 600 mp investment that can destroy your HQ in 2 barrages, is not something to be a bit more cautious with, it is unfair.
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Porygon
22 Jul 2015, 15:52 PM
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jump backJump back to quoted post22 Jul 2015, 15:16 PMvoltardark
From the game i played and those i watched, OKW players are used to place their base (flak) aggressively to deny territory and win easily.

Maybe its time to be a bit more cautious?

Sure there is ml-20, but also at-gun howitzer mode, SU-76 or others.

Thanks.


Putting the flak in your base doesn't mean you can stop the ML20 bombing it. lel
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Budwise
22 Jul 2015, 15:57 PM
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Yea on smaller maps its pretty broken imo. There is no safe place including your own base, actually, especially your own base.
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OrionHunter88
22 Jul 2015, 16:12 PM
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I think the answer here is to give OKW a precision guided V-1 or V-2. Allow it to be called in on the fog of war with very high scatter, but if target is visible it would be accurate.
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Australian Magic
22 Jul 2015, 16:26 PM
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Simple. Leave howies; give OKW new commander/s with off map/unit which can kill ML20.

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MoerserKarL
22 Jul 2015, 16:30 PM
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wait for the brits :foreveralone: there howitzers are not destroyable by any offmap :nahnah:
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BeefSurge
22 Jul 2015, 16:32 PM
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Why is arty even on the game? It's skilless, campy, and out of scale.
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Porygon
22 Jul 2015, 16:40 PM
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jump backJump back to quoted post22 Jul 2015, 16:32 PMBeefSurge
Why is arty even on the game? It's skilless, campy, and out of scale.


Arty breakthrough support weapon wall are fine, killing base structure are nuts.
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l4hti
22 Jul 2015, 16:42 PM
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Just boomrush his ML20 with Luchs, remember to sweep.. L2p
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