Dev Diary pt1: UKF - From History to Gameplay

Jump back to quoted post21 Jul 2015, 15:27 PMEmporer Palpatine

Since the USF forces are based around those of the Battle of the Bulge and the Ardennes campaign, they never used the m26 Pershing.

Jump back to quoted post22 Jul 2015, 08:40 AMMr. Someguy

I'm just disappointed that they're ignoring the Jumbo's contribution to the war. Those 'Assault Tanks' were key in breaking through German lines in the Ardennes, because they could bounce a hit from a Tiger or Panther when nothing else could. Over 250 made, unknown number of "Expedient Jumbos" (field modified Shermans), compared to just 20 Pershings.

Jump back to quoted post22 Jul 2015, 14:43 PMAvNY

The Armored divisions didn't want them. Their resistance to enemy fire proved to be effective. But they were much slower and their weight pushed the suspension of the Sherman to its limits which also decreased their mobility. They were arriving in theater by October I think and by the Bulge counterattack it had already been decided that they were not the answer or the future. Remember that they were an answer mostly to AT guns and heavy ones at that (the Sherman was already "decently" armored against 50 and 75mm AT guns from the front).

Jump back to quoted post20 Jul 2015, 19:01 PMAlexzandvar

Although funny enough America did come pretty close to nuking the USSR because idiots like Patton and Churchill were allowed to continue to be in charge of things when they should have been locked in a storage container when the war was done.

Jump back to quoted post22 Jul 2015, 17:20 PMGlendizzle

Patton was in a car crash in Germany on Dec 8, 1945 and died on the 21st. He was buried in Luxembourg. Patton never returned to the United States.

Churchill was voted out of 10 Downing in July 1945 and didn't return until '51.

Thus one dead and the other leading the opposition is not very conducive to "continue to be in charge."

Jump back to quoted post22 Jul 2015, 17:20 PMGlendizzle

Patton was in a car crash in Germany on Dec 8, 1945 and died on the 21st. He was buried in Luxembourg. Patton never returned to the United States.

Churchill was voted out of 10 Downing in July 1945 and didn't return until '51.

Thus one dead and the other leading the opposition is not very conducive to "continue to be in charge."

Jump back to quoted post23 Jul 2015, 03:15 AMAlexzandvar

I said "idiots like" for a reason. Neither were alone in their anti-communist fear mongering. And the "keep the tanks on rolling" had serious momentum even into 1946.

Jump back to quoted post23 Jul 2015, 04:00 AMMr. Someguy

They turned out to be right though, Stalin betrayed us almost immediately, and by 1950 we found ourselves suddenly blindsided by Soviet Pilots after wiping out the Korean People's Air Force.

Jump back to quoted post23 Jul 2015, 04:10 AMAlexzandvar

Trust is a two way street, and the Soviets had every reason to be pissed about all the extreme anti-communist rhetoric coming out of the United States and Britain even when the Soviets were their allies.

Jump back to quoted post23 Jul 2015, 04:10 AMAlexzandvar

The west also really heeing and humming about prosecuting war criminals/nazi's put a really bad taste in the USSR's mouth. Especially since we built our entire space program around nazi scientists and technology lol.