Patch July 21st preview with Dusty and Luvnest
13 Jul 2015, 23:05 PM
#121
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I also feel for all the people who believe Stuart based strats will work and its valid enough to delay sherman by another 3-4 minutes.
Maybe it's 'cause the Axis players aren't a bunch of forum crybabies, and they keep their cool and fight the uphill battle, unlike some of their "allied" counterparts.
13 Jul 2015, 23:41 PM
#122
Posts: 100
Why should I go T3 if only a difference of 55 Fuel to T4?
I think T3 build should be a bit cheaper. Or make T4 more expensive, but then they would have to adjust all faction. mhh
I think T3 build should be a bit cheaper. Or make T4 more expensive, but then they would have to adjust all faction. mhh
13 Jul 2015, 23:41 PM
#123
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It's funny to read that. Imagine USF, with a MG42 arc.
What is smoke that comes on your best basic infantry unit. I would give up Volk cold protection and grenade for smoke.
So nothing was done to help USF indirect other then making the pack howi no longer completely overpriced. USF will still struggle vs the MG42 especially with them being in T0.
Captain also now costs less to reducing the total cost of the Pack Howi significantly.
I also feel for all the people who believe Stuart based strats will work and its valid enough to delay sherman by another 3-4 minutes.
Everyone but OKW got delayed, so USF is just on par with everyone else now while gaining the ability to field a light tank before anyone else can.
edit: typos!
14 Jul 2015, 00:10 AM
#124
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USF stills without a different opening rather than rifles.
Good job relic.
Good job relic.
14 Jul 2015, 00:25 AM
#125
Posts: 1930
Everyone but OKW got delayed, so USF is just on par with everyone else now while gaining the ability to field a light tank before anyone else can.
edit: typos!
everyone's medium tank get delay, but the sov and USf now get their light tank faster
the ost is going to suffer horribly trying to contest map control against m15, m20 stuart, t70, and su76 with 222, panzergrenadier, grenadiers and pak.
the patch state it wants to increase the viability of light vehicle combat, except the ost's light vehicle is nearly nonexistent. There isn't going to be a fight, there's going to be a slaughter. the t70, su76, stuart, m20, and m15 are going to eat ost alive.
14 Jul 2015, 00:39 AM
#126
Posts: 738
Seems like OKW will be compleatly rekt by Soviets
OKW got P4; but who'd go for P4 when you'll be facing T-34-85/E8s spam as soon as T4 is up? Obers are still overpriced and arty gonna rekt OKW base sector....byebye trucks.
(
Don't worry you can build a PII two minutes after your opponent fields a T-70 or Stuart. Don't forget how powerful Obers are now vs those buffed Maxims and 50.cals.
OKW are really stronk now
14 Jul 2015, 00:57 AM
#127
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I also feel for all the people who believe Stuart based strats will work and its valid enough to delay sherman by another 3-4 minutes.
I get a Stuart at least 90% of the time that I play USF in 2v2. It's an amazing unit. Last night I played with Dusty and had a 32 kill Stuart by the end of the game.
It's great against Grens, Volks, MGs, 222, 251 HT, 251 Flak.
Even holds it's own against Puma, helps a lot against Pz4... dominated Luchs, etc.
It's a good unit.
14 Jul 2015, 01:12 AM
#128
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I get a Stuart at least 90% of the time that I play USF in 2v2. It's an amazing unit. Last night I played with Dusty and had a 32 kill Stuart by the end of the game.
It's great against Grens, Volks, MGs, 222, 251 HT, 251 Flak.
Even holds it's own against Puma, helps a lot against Pz4... dominated Luchs, etc.
It's a good unit.
Captain is essentially the be all end all counter to OKW Mech starts now; especially with the cheaper price.
14 Jul 2015, 01:19 AM
#129
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Captain is essentially the be all end all counter to OKW Mech starts now; especially with the cheaper price.
It has always been.
My controls weren't working
And if they were, you were playing dishonorably,
And if you weren't, you were playing without skill,
And if you were, it's not fun to play that way,
And if it is, you only care about winning.
Bible of Scrublord, Psalt 3:16.
And if they were, you were playing dishonorably,
And if you weren't, you were playing without skill,
And if you were, it's not fun to play that way,
And if it is, you only care about winning.
Bible of Scrublord, Psalt 3:16.
14 Jul 2015, 01:26 AM
#130
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It has always been.
Except it will come earlier now with buffed units. tbh I think a lot of people are overlooking the fact that OKW is the only faction who's teching didn't get pushed back (although It didn't get pulled forward either) making Panthers and PIV's hit the field pretty fast. Although it's not like their counters wont already be there (AT guns, SU-76, ect).
14 Jul 2015, 01:46 AM
#131
Posts: 141
I have the feeling that OKW will have a hard time fighting Comrade Stalin...
14 Jul 2015, 01:49 AM
#132
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I have the feeling that OKW will have a hard time fighting Comrade Stalin...
Not much has changed from WFA release in that regard really. Maxim spam is back baby
!
14 Jul 2015, 02:17 AM
#133
Posts: 1891
Leig8 price buff is great for the new Maxim.
OKW fast Panther/P4 might be op vs USF.
OKW fast Panther/P4 might be op vs USF.
The Fascisti Will Pay.
14 Jul 2015, 02:45 AM
#134
Posts: 622
Leig8 price buff is great for the new Maxim.
OKW fast Panther/P4 might be op vs USF.
but panther and p4 are in same building feels werid
14 Jul 2015, 02:50 AM
#135
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but panther and p4 are in same building feels werid
It's not like your getting a regular PIV, your getting one with skirts.
14 Jul 2015, 02:50 AM
#136
Posts: 2053
I'd like to see the 222 gain a new model and come stock with the Autocannon in exchange for a cost increase. It won't be on the same level as the T-70, but it won't be completely outclassed.
And something done about 251 flamer...
Because maybe it should also exist as a thing once more.
14 Jul 2015, 02:54 AM
#137
Posts: 622
It's not like your getting a regular PIV, you getting one with skirts.
still i will think all OKW player in the end will chose 1 of the two over the other, maybe p4 all the time for low cost or panther all the time for performance. we will see how the trend goes, i was thinking p4 in mech but then no one gonna use puma in the end if that happens
14 Jul 2015, 02:58 AM
#138
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still i will think all OKW player in the end will chose 1 of the two over the other, maybe p4 all the time for low cost or panther all the time for performance. we will see how the trend goes, i was thinking p4 in mech but then no one gonna use puma in the end if that happens
In my dream world OKW has linear tech and it goes;
T1 BG HQ: Uhu, ISG, Puma, Flak Trak ----> T2 Mech HQ: P2, PIV, JPIV, Stuka -----> Schwer Panzer HQ: Panther, Obers, KT
T2 would get a small price increase to 50 or 60 fuel as T1 is (already) free.
The reason why I like this idea is because it makes OKW less about rushing (since you could only convert once you hit T2) and more about a slow escalation to extremely powerful late game units. Start light, transition to mediums, end with heavies.
14 Jul 2015, 03:05 AM
#139
Posts: 622
In my dream world OKW has linear tech and it goes;
T1 BG HQ: Uhu, ISG, Puma, Flak Trak ----> T2 Mech HQ: P2, PIV, JPIV, Stuka -----> Schwer Panzer HQ: Panther, Obers, KT
T2 would get a small price increase to 50 or 60 fuel as T1 is (already) free.
your tree seems great each HQ have their own blob counter, and AT and AI unit, but it could mean death to USF M20 or AA truck rush or flame car rush. allied fan boys will cry very hard for it
14 Jul 2015, 03:08 AM
#140
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your tree seems great each HQ have their own blob counter, and AT and AI unit, but it could mean death to USF M20 or AA truck rush or flame car rush. allied fan boys will cry very hard for it
That's the idea, all teching should work like Ostheer teching does. Each tier gives you access to AT, AI, and a mix of both.
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