Balance Data Since The Patch

Jump back to quoted post5 Jul 2015, 19:06 PMBeefSurge

In their current state OKW doesn't need a medium. If their T0 got reworked I'd agree.

Jump back to quoted post5 Jul 2015, 18:55 PMQueenRatchet123

When allies struggle in 4's its fine. But when you suck with okw its, Problem 1 2 3 4 and etc.

in your words "relearn" how to play.

A medium tank isn't gona solve shit if you struggle with these things now.

You lack suppressing, kool, pick one of the 2 commanders that grant you an mg34

You lack garrison clearing, fine, pick a commander with infiltration nades.

Struggle with mg's, kewl, flank like everybody else.

Every other faction must choose a commander to stay competitive, okw is no exception.

Jump back to quoted post5 Jul 2015, 19:12 PMBeefSurge

If it was an AI oriented medium like the PE one I wouldn't mind. But a jack of all trades medium defies the whole OKW flavor. (Just like Volks do.)

Jump back to quoted post5 Jul 2015, 17:33 PMAlexzandvar

This video is extremely funny because essentially CoH2 is nothing BUT foo strategies that people just swap as the meta demands

Jump back to quoted post5 Jul 2015, 19:00 PMAlexzandvar

I mentioned all those things in my post? Like what is the point of this post. Iv never said Allies struggling in 4's is fine.

OKW lacking a generalist medium to bridge the gap between the PV and P2 is a thing.

Jump back to quoted post5 Jul 2015, 19:36 PMAlexzandvar

So the Sturmtiger being useless is fine? Like the issue here is that ever faction has a generalist medium but OKW and it shows with how anemic OKW mid game is due to it.

Volks don't "defy" the faction flavor, they exemplify it. Units that are unwhelming to start but become excellent as the game progresses.

Jump back to quoted post5 Jul 2015, 21:41 PMBeefSurge

Faction mission statement is specialist units that scale into lategame with vet. Volks are not specialized at anything.

And no, Sturmtiger shouldn't suck. It should be buffed. Decrease reload time by a lot and increase range, voila.

And the "every other faction" argument doesn't really work because every other faction has 3 vet levels and HQ buildings restricted to HQ sector, among other things.

I'll rephrase:unless OKW goes through a pretty big re-think, versatile mediums should not be allowed. Instead buffing of other useless units should happen.

Jump back to quoted post5 Jul 2015, 21:55 PMAlexzandvar

OKW being a patchwork faction with a million exceptions to every rule is one of the reasons it's such a mess. The Sturmtiger shouldn't be a stock unit (it's way to specialized), and the huge gap between the PII and PV still needs fixing.

Bring OKW in line with the other factions should be the goal instead of continuing to twist ourselves into pretzels.

Jump back to quoted post5 Jul 2015, 10:26 AMCabreza

Also, regarding game balance and how it relates to skill, this is a fascinating watch:

Jump back to quoted post5 Jul 2015, 10:26 AMCabreza

Also, regarding game balance and how it relates to skill, this is a fascinating watch:

Jump back to quoted post5 Jul 2015, 19:36 PMAlexzandvar

So the Sturmtiger being useless is fine? Like the issue here is that ever faction has a generalist medium but OKW and it shows with how anemic OKW mid game is due to it.

Volks don't "defy" the faction flavor, they exemplify it. Units that are unwhelming to start but become excellent as the game progresses.

Jump back to quoted post7 Jul 2015, 09:10 AMFul4n0

never saw you opening a thread about how useless was a SU-76, or about USF not having a Heavy, but hey, sturmtiger is useless (let´s go to post the same thing in every post I write, this is the fashion this week!!)

OKW don´t have a medium (let´s go to post the same thing in every post I write, this is the fashion this week!!)


Hey!! this is a thread about "statistic data and balance", but how cares!!!! sturmtiger is useless, OKW has no medium!!!


really shame that with more than 3000 post, all of them are useless and biased as hell.....you flood this forum with the same shit once and other....don´t you think you are disturbing the user experience in this web for a lot of people???


and then, "I´m trying to not be so biased lately, but all of you keep attacking me and not caring about what I write"

keep this way man, keep this way.....

Jump back to quoted post7 Jul 2015, 09:10 AMFul4n0

never saw you opening a thread about how useless was a SU-76, or about USF not having a Heavy, but hey, sturmtiger is useless (let´s go to post the same thing in every post I write, this is the fashion this week!!)

OKW don´t have a medium (let´s go to post the same thing in every post I write, this is the fashion this week!!)


Hey!! this is a thread about "statistic data and balance", but how cares!!!! sturmtiger is useless, OKW has no medium!!!


really shame that with more than 3000 post, all of them are useless and biased as hell.....you flood this forum with the same shit once and other....don´t you think you are disturbing the user experience in this web for a lot of people???


and then, "I´m trying to not be so biased lately, but all of you keep attacking me and not caring about what I write"

keep this way man, keep this way.....

You forgot "reduced fuel income"