Boring as hell to play and throwing bodies at lines of MG's in a hope to get a lucky flank is not balanced or enjoyable.
Soviets still owning as usual but US life is to hard now. Playing as Wehr with my 2's partner and its just hilarious now but I feel they need some new openers so they aren't hardcountered by MG42's... especially with their HUGE arc, on most maps they completely lock down an entire section and US is forced to shit munitions and smoke everything to even get close.
US need more now.
25 Jun 2015, 00:57 AM
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25 Jun 2015, 01:00 AM
#2
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I guess OKW needs something to to counter MG's to because they don't even have smoke to shit.
25 Jun 2015, 01:01 AM
#3
Posts: 513
I guess OKW needs something to to counter MG's to because they don't even have smoke to shit.
Maxim didn't get buffed mate. US MG is okay but much smaller arc and isn't as devastating and comes later. Issue is early MG play hardcounters a faction.
25 Jun 2015, 01:20 AM
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Maxim didn't get buffed mate. US MG is okay but much smaller arc and isn't as devastating and comes later. Issue is early MG play hardcounters a faction.
The .50 cal has much, much better suppression now and the Maxim did get the same buff other MG's got to shooting at larger squads meaning the maxim can suppress Volks and Fuss on the first burst.
The thing is; this is fine. And USF is fine to.
25 Jun 2015, 01:33 AM
#5
Posts: 824
M20s can flank MGs and kill them and you can get one in 5 mins...
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25 Jun 2015, 01:33 AM
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Permanently BannedIgnore alex. he has no clue how to manage USF at a high level
imo USF NEEDs
1. mortar
2. more elite OR
3. rifles need to scale better
4. earlier success to suppression platform
smoke is just a waste of muni, all an axis player needs to do is reposition their mg's.
imo USF NEEDs
1. mortar
2. more elite OR
3. rifles need to scale better
4. earlier success to suppression platform
smoke is just a waste of muni, all an axis player needs to do is reposition their mg's.
There is no recording in all WW2 history of a piat actually knocking off a vehicle. Yes, it was THAT bad.
25 Jun 2015, 01:38 AM
#7
Posts: 2561
Funny thing is alex knows perfectly well that relic knew there would be an issue and already has something planned.
The truth is that right now grenades are pretty much a necessity to stay in the game as US right now. Which means you will be delaying your tech by 25 fuel every game which is annoying and restrictive. It also drains your muni big time to be throwing out smoke and grenades every engagment, making having the muni for bars or zooks a struggle. I've been finding myself forced into investing in a muni cache every game just to make sure my infantry can stay relevant. Really wish I could atleast rely on the pack so I didn't have to constantly spend muni to counter MGs.
The truth is that right now grenades are pretty much a necessity to stay in the game as US right now. Which means you will be delaying your tech by 25 fuel every game which is annoying and restrictive. It also drains your muni big time to be throwing out smoke and grenades every engagment, making having the muni for bars or zooks a struggle. I've been finding myself forced into investing in a muni cache every game just to make sure my infantry can stay relevant. Really wish I could atleast rely on the pack so I didn't have to constantly spend muni to counter MGs.
25 Jun 2015, 01:44 AM
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USF having more counters would be excellent, but the idea that USF is unplayable right not is patently false.
And yes Omega you highlight one of my main frustrations atm which is the fact that these changes don't make the most terrible amount of sense with out everything included.
And yes Omega you highlight one of my main frustrations atm which is the fact that these changes don't make the most terrible amount of sense with out everything included.
25 Jun 2015, 01:44 AM
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Permanently BannedUS is far from UP they are stronger than they've ever been. L2P. If you want buffs. Then ur gonna have to revamp quad riflemen into m20 critical mass 5 minutes into the game.
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axis
25 Jun 2015, 01:51 AM
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Permanently BannedUS is far from UP they are stronger than they've ever been. L2P. If you want buffs. Then ur gonna have to revamp quad riflemen into m20 critical mass 5 minutes into the game.
ZERO. You have zero USF games and have the audacity to claim its a l2p issue..
You people are trying me, it impossible to be nice on these forums when people who have no clue what they are talking about tries to tell others they don't.
play ONE USF GAME. JUST ONE.
again, the USF faction is incomplete based on the reasons I gave above.
There is no recording in all WW2 history of a piat actually knocking off a vehicle. Yes, it was THAT bad.
25 Jun 2015, 02:19 AM
#11
Posts: 255
Amazing, just amazing that someone like Daspoulos can claim USF is fine when he has NEVER played a game with said faction.
I honestly understand why Queen hardly ever takes these forums serious, it's really hard to with shit like that.
I honestly understand why Queen hardly ever takes these forums serious, it's really hard to with shit like that.
25 Jun 2015, 02:23 AM
#12
Posts: 1891
Yeah seriously. USF has to contend with the Sniper AND MG42 now. The only hope as USF is to turtle, and then rush a Stuart or dual HMGs.
The Fascisti Will Pay.
25 Jun 2015, 02:29 AM
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Posts: 1116 | Subs: 1
Permanently BannedStill more of a 1337 player. Don't need to play 1v1s as USF to know that they aren't as bad as you guys say. I lol at the fact that just because mg42s might be a tad OP that USF needs some giant overhaul. Sorry but abuse 5 minute m20s harder. You might win.
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axis
25 Jun 2015, 02:39 AM
#14
Posts: 2280 | Subs: 2
Permanently BannedStill more of a 1337 player. Don't need to play 1v1s as USF to know that they aren't as bad as you guys say. I lol at the fact that just because mg42s might be a tad OP that USF needs some giant overhaul. Sorry but abuse 5 minute m20s harder. You might win.
zero usf games.... fucking none!
this 5 minute m20 "abuse", as you call it, is something you have never even attempted. Because again, you haven't touched the faction.
This argument of "i played against them so I know what im talking about" is bullshit. period.
Play them this patch, face the new mg42, then come talk.
There is no recording in all WW2 history of a piat actually knocking off a vehicle. Yes, it was THAT bad.
25 Jun 2015, 02:40 AM
#15
Posts: 1891
If he was talking about Greyhound I could understand, but M20? Lol
The Fascisti Will Pay.
25 Jun 2015, 02:43 AM
#16
1 Posts: 1276
+1 QueenRatchet.
USF needs something to keep them in the game. They get cut out so fast and while they do alright in 1v1's they get rekt in 2v2 and up.
"USF NEEDs
1. mortar
2. more elite OR
3. rifles need to scale better
4. earlier success to suppression platform " -QueenRatchet
USF needs something to keep them in the game. They get cut out so fast and while they do alright in 1v1's they get rekt in 2v2 and up.
"USF NEEDs
1. mortar
2. more elite OR
3. rifles need to scale better
4. earlier success to suppression platform " -QueenRatchet
25 Jun 2015, 02:48 AM
#17
Posts: 1891
Best option is to give Captain all light vehicles, and give Lietenant all team weapons. Buff Bazooka, decrease Lietenant tech cost to 30.
The Fascisti Will Pay.
25 Jun 2015, 03:14 AM
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All I can say is I hope Relic doesn't take to long to roll all the changes out, because your wish is their command....
...as long as you have time to wait.
...as long as you have time to wait.
25 Jun 2015, 03:26 AM
#19
Posts: 1891
Heck yeah!
The Fascisti Will Pay.
25 Jun 2015, 03:26 AM
#20
7 Posts: 78
Best option is to give Captain all light vehicles, and give Lietenant all team weapons. Buff Bazooka, decrease Lietenant tech cost to 30.
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