The optics of this decision will be resounding. Wow.
Patch notes for 23rd June
17 Jun 2015, 21:34 PM
#81
Posts: 1595 | Subs: 2
"Correct in that the King Tiger isnt included because its not a commander unit. Doesnt mean they wont be in the future. We really wanted to change the Heavy Tank call in meta first and see if KT is somethign we need to look at later." - JLee from Relic
The optics of this decision will be resounding. Wow.
The optics of this decision will be resounding. Wow.
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17 Jun 2015, 21:35 PM
#82
Posts: 656
The 120mm mortar retains it's superior AoE profile when compared to the 82mm so it will still be more effective at wiping squads. It will just be less likely to do so now after the patch thanks to the damage reduction.
17 Jun 2015, 21:37 PM
#83
10 Posts: 155
Great KT not limited... well ok...lol.
17 Jun 2015, 21:38 PM
#84
Posts: 2779
ROFL 120mm now 340 MP cost.
GJ buffing the guard motor more.
GJ buffing the guard motor more.
17 Jun 2015, 21:38 PM
#85
Posts: 171
Keep telling us how shit the patch is when you've never even played it. LOL
Lets use our brains for a sec. This patch only minimally addresses the problems of current 1v1 play. For example, it does not address using call ins for Soviets or their overwhelming superiority in current 1v1 play. That is, it in no way will remove Guard Motor from everyones command pick. If anything it strengthens that choice even more. -20
It gets some pluses here and there. +3
All said in done - this is a sorry ass patch bro.
17 Jun 2015, 21:40 PM
#86
Posts: 1122
Kt spam is new meta.
17 Jun 2015, 21:41 PM
#87
Posts: 707
Nice way to tell axis players to go fuck themselves...
PTRS no change = more guards more Tank Hunter.
120 AoE no change + only damage reduction = still bleeds the fuck out of you, only less instant wiping.
Mark Target Unchanged
Finally, lets call in some T34/85, Fuck Yay. still 10 CP, still unlimited.
PTRS no change = more guards more Tank Hunter.
120 AoE no change + only damage reduction = still bleeds the fuck out of you, only less instant wiping.
Mark Target Unchanged
Finally, lets call in some T34/85, Fuck Yay. still 10 CP, still unlimited.
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17 Jun 2015, 21:44 PM
#88
Posts: 262
You obviously misread...the whole freaking patch notes. Tigers(ALL VARIANTS) limited to 1. A
You sure about that?
In hoc signo vinces!
17 Jun 2015, 21:45 PM
#89
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Posts: 871
Much butthurt form axis players it seems. Makes for a good laugh 
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So your gonna stop playing (and crying) then?
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So your gonna stop playing (and crying) then?
17 Jun 2015, 21:47 PM
#90
Posts: 1705
Brianless stuff.Limit heavies to 1,but easy 8 and t-34/85 call-ins stay the same.Now every one of them goes for those instead of is-2.
Didn't fix wehrmacht teching which means patch means nothing to us.
There were some great changes but without these fundamental issues its irrelevant.
I guess gurad motor ftw continues.No point playing this.
Didn't fix wehrmacht teching which means patch means nothing to us.
There were some great changes but without these fundamental issues its irrelevant.
I guess gurad motor ftw continues.No point playing this.
17 Jun 2015, 21:47 PM
#91
Posts: 1820 | Subs: 2
Meh.. where is the rest of it?!...
Atleast something, but dissapointed. Atleast we can wait for mods now.
Atleast something, but dissapointed. Atleast we can wait for mods now.
17 Jun 2015, 21:48 PM
#92
Posts: 3293
guys just as a reminder NDA still up invised a few posts taht break it. (yea i know it sucks 
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17 Jun 2015, 21:48 PM
#93
Posts: 4951 | Subs: 1
guards are slightly worse
What are you smoking? The buffed guards by making them not drop their weapons every 5 seconds.
Much butthurt form axis players it seems. Makes for a good laugh
There wasn't a single Axis nerf other than the Tiger I being limited to 1 so.......
17 Jun 2015, 21:48 PM
#94
Posts: 656
Guard motor was hardly nerfed. Sure the 120mm lost damage but that is not why anyone goes guard motor. Even with the nerf it still retains better squad wipe potential than the 82mm and now is cheaper to field. Beyond that guards will drop their weapons a lot less often and all of the T34/85 CP requirements remain unchanged while Guard motor's main competitor, Shock Rifle, is limited to a single IS2 on the field at any one time.
Lets not forget also that changes to AT nades and Pfausts mean that T34/85s are going to be A LOT more mobile on the flank compared to before.
Lets not forget also that changes to AT nades and Pfausts mean that T34/85s are going to be A LOT more mobile on the flank compared to before.
17 Jun 2015, 21:51 PM
#95
Posts: 1026
Jesus reading this thread has been painful. Y'all whine when balance changes inevitably go too far too fast and wind up ruining the balance, drastically overnerfing or overbuffing units etc. Now you complain when they roll out the changes in phases so that we don't have 200 different moving parts to try and balance simultaneously.
It's not going to be six months to the next patch. Calm your tits, people.
It's not going to be six months to the next patch. Calm your tits, people.
17 Jun 2015, 21:51 PM
#96
Posts: 4951 | Subs: 1
Guard motor was hardly nerfed. Sure the 120mm lost damage but that is not why anyone goes guard motor. Even with the nerf it still retains better squad wipe potential than the 82mm and now is cheaper to field. Beyond that guards will drop their weapons a lot less often and all of the T34/85 CP requirements remain unchanged while Guard motor's main competitor, Shock Rifle, is limited to a single IS2 on the field at any one time.
Don't forget about mark vehicle! But yeah I don't see really any reason for Soviet players do go anything outside of Guard Motor.
17 Jun 2015, 21:51 PM
#97
10 Posts: 871
There wasn't a single Axis nerf other than the Tiger I being limited to 1 so.......
Well you would think that, yet I just counted 6 people on the last 1 -2 pages upset crying about axis.
17 Jun 2015, 21:52 PM
#98
Posts: 1705
Guard motor was hardly nerfed. Sure the 120mm lost damage but that is not why anyone goes guard motor. Even with the nerf it still retains better squad wipe potential than the 82mm and now is cheaper to field. Beyond that guards will drop their weapons a lot less often and all of the T34/85 CP requirements remain unchanged while Guard motor's main competitor, Shock Rifle, is limited to a single IS2 on the field at any one time.
Lets not forget also that changes to AT nades and Pfausts mean that T34/85s are going to be A LOT more mobile on the flank compared to before.
Guard motor remains OP,especially since OKW and Ost can't compete in call-in terms.T-34/85 now the standard soviet go to.As if it wasn't bad enough.
17 Jun 2015, 21:53 PM
#99
Posts: 171
Guard motor was hardly nerfed. Sure the 120mm lost damage but that is not why anyone goes guard motor. Even with the nerf it still retains better squad wipe potential than the 82mm and now is cheaper to field. Beyond that guards will drop their weapons a lot less often and all of the T34/85 CP requirements remain unchanged while Guard motor's main competitor, Shock Rifle, is limited to a single IS2 on the field at any one time.
Lets not forget also that changes to AT nades and Pfausts mean that T34/85s are going to be A LOT more mobile on the flank compared to before.
Yep, love this game, but it is almost time to play something else. Cant imagine a serious soviet player not only using Guard Motor now.
17 Jun 2015, 21:54 PM
#100
Posts: 656
Guard motor remains OP,especially since OKW and Ost can't compete in call-in terms.T-34/85 now the standard soviet go to.As if it wasn't bad enough.
I'm very disappointed in the situation because the fix was essentially there in NDA land and this is what we get instead.
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