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17 Jun 2015, 21:34 PM
#81
avatar of Napalm

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"Correct in that the King Tiger isnt included because its not a commander unit. Doesnt mean they wont be in the future. We really wanted to change the Heavy Tank call in meta first and see if KT is somethign we need to look at later." - JLee from Relic

The optics of this decision will be resounding. Wow.

17 Jun 2015, 21:35 PM
#82
avatar of Cabreza

Posts: 656

The 120mm mortar retains it's superior AoE profile when compared to the 82mm so it will still be more effective at wiping squads. It will just be less likely to do so now after the patch thanks to the damage reduction.
17 Jun 2015, 21:37 PM
#83
avatar of Sgt.Chickenface
Patrion 310

Posts: 155

Great KT not limited... well ok...lol.
17 Jun 2015, 21:38 PM
#84
avatar of Porygon

Posts: 2779

ROFL 120mm now 340 MP cost.

GJ buffing the guard motor more.
17 Jun 2015, 21:38 PM
#85
avatar of jellyd0nut

Posts: 171

jump backJump back to quoted post17 Jun 2015, 21:29 PMCieZ


Keep telling us how shit the patch is when you've never even played it. LOL



Lets use our brains for a sec. This patch only minimally addresses the problems of current 1v1 play. For example, it does not address using call ins for Soviets or their overwhelming superiority in current 1v1 play. That is, it in no way will remove Guard Motor from everyones command pick. If anything it strengthens that choice even more. -20

It gets some pluses here and there. +3

All said in done - this is a sorry ass patch bro.


17 Jun 2015, 21:40 PM
#86
avatar of Jadame!

Posts: 1122

Kt spam is new meta.
17 Jun 2015, 21:41 PM
#87
avatar of siuking666

Posts: 707

Nice way to tell axis players to go fuck themselves...

PTRS no change = more guards more Tank Hunter.
120 AoE no change + only damage reduction = still bleeds the fuck out of you, only less instant wiping.
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Finally, lets call in some T34/85, Fuck Yay. still 10 CP, still unlimited.
17 Jun 2015, 21:44 PM
#88
avatar of BrutusHR

Posts: 262



You obviously misread...the whole freaking patch notes. Tigers(ALL VARIANTS) limited to 1. A


You sure about that?
17 Jun 2015, 21:45 PM
#89
avatar of Puppetmaster
Patrion 310

Posts: 871

Much butthurt form axis players it seems. Makes for a good laugh :)


Edit:

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So your gonna stop playing (and crying) then?
17 Jun 2015, 21:47 PM
#90
avatar of austerlitz

Posts: 1705

Brianless stuff.Limit heavies to 1,but easy 8 and t-34/85 call-ins stay the same.Now every one of them goes for those instead of is-2.

Didn't fix wehrmacht teching which means patch means nothing to us.

There were some great changes but without these fundamental issues its irrelevant.
I guess gurad motor ftw continues.No point playing this.
17 Jun 2015, 21:47 PM
#91
avatar of Spanky
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Posts: 1820 | Subs: 2

Meh.. where is the rest of it?!...

Atleast something, but dissapointed. Atleast we can wait for mods now.
17 Jun 2015, 21:48 PM
#92
avatar of WiFiDi
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Posts: 3293

guys just as a reminder NDA still up invised a few posts taht break it. (yea i know it sucks :( )
17 Jun 2015, 21:48 PM
#93
avatar of Alexzandvar

Posts: 4951 | Subs: 1

jump backJump back to quoted post17 Jun 2015, 21:20 PMCieZ


guards are slightly worse


What are you smoking? The buffed guards by making them not drop their weapons every 5 seconds.

Much butthurt form axis players it seems. Makes for a good laugh :)


There wasn't a single Axis nerf other than the Tiger I being limited to 1 so.......
17 Jun 2015, 21:48 PM
#94
avatar of Cabreza

Posts: 656

Guard motor was hardly nerfed. Sure the 120mm lost damage but that is not why anyone goes guard motor. Even with the nerf it still retains better squad wipe potential than the 82mm and now is cheaper to field. Beyond that guards will drop their weapons a lot less often and all of the T34/85 CP requirements remain unchanged while Guard motor's main competitor, Shock Rifle, is limited to a single IS2 on the field at any one time.

Lets not forget also that changes to AT nades and Pfausts mean that T34/85s are going to be A LOT more mobile on the flank compared to before.
17 Jun 2015, 21:51 PM
#95
avatar of ThoseDeafMutes

Posts: 1026

Jesus reading this thread has been painful. Y'all whine when balance changes inevitably go too far too fast and wind up ruining the balance, drastically overnerfing or overbuffing units etc. Now you complain when they roll out the changes in phases so that we don't have 200 different moving parts to try and balance simultaneously.

It's not going to be six months to the next patch. Calm your tits, people.
17 Jun 2015, 21:51 PM
#96
avatar of Alexzandvar

Posts: 4951 | Subs: 1

jump backJump back to quoted post17 Jun 2015, 21:48 PMCabreza
Guard motor was hardly nerfed. Sure the 120mm lost damage but that is not why anyone goes guard motor. Even with the nerf it still retains better squad wipe potential than the 82mm and now is cheaper to field. Beyond that guards will drop their weapons a lot less often and all of the T34/85 CP requirements remain unchanged while Guard motor's main competitor, Shock Rifle, is limited to a single IS2 on the field at any one time.


Don't forget about mark vehicle! But yeah I don't see really any reason for Soviet players do go anything outside of Guard Motor.
17 Jun 2015, 21:51 PM
#97
avatar of Puppetmaster
Patrion 310

Posts: 871

There wasn't a single Axis nerf other than the Tiger I being limited to 1 so.......



Well you would think that, yet I just counted 6 people on the last 1 -2 pages upset crying about axis.
17 Jun 2015, 21:52 PM
#98
avatar of austerlitz

Posts: 1705

jump backJump back to quoted post17 Jun 2015, 21:48 PMCabreza
Guard motor was hardly nerfed. Sure the 120mm lost damage but that is not why anyone goes guard motor. Even with the nerf it still retains better squad wipe potential than the 82mm and now is cheaper to field. Beyond that guards will drop their weapons a lot less often and all of the T34/85 CP requirements remain unchanged while Guard motor's main competitor, Shock Rifle, is limited to a single IS2 on the field at any one time.

Lets not forget also that changes to AT nades and Pfausts mean that T34/85s are going to be A LOT more mobile on the flank compared to before.


Guard motor remains OP,especially since OKW and Ost can't compete in call-in terms.T-34/85 now the standard soviet go to.As if it wasn't bad enough.
17 Jun 2015, 21:53 PM
#99
avatar of jellyd0nut

Posts: 171

jump backJump back to quoted post17 Jun 2015, 21:48 PMCabreza
Guard motor was hardly nerfed. Sure the 120mm lost damage but that is not why anyone goes guard motor. Even with the nerf it still retains better squad wipe potential than the 82mm and now is cheaper to field. Beyond that guards will drop their weapons a lot less often and all of the T34/85 CP requirements remain unchanged while Guard motor's main competitor, Shock Rifle, is limited to a single IS2 on the field at any one time.

Lets not forget also that changes to AT nades and Pfausts mean that T34/85s are going to be A LOT more mobile on the flank compared to before.


Yep, love this game, but it is almost time to play something else. Cant imagine a serious soviet player not only using Guard Motor now.
17 Jun 2015, 21:54 PM
#100
avatar of Cabreza

Posts: 656



Guard motor remains OP,especially since OKW and Ost can't compete in call-in terms.T-34/85 now the standard soviet go to.As if it wasn't bad enough.


I'm very disappointed in the situation because the fix was essentially there in NDA land and this is what we get instead.
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