WHEN they will nerf Jagpanzer
17 Jun 2015, 00:13 AM
#21
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Stealth is op
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17 Jun 2015, 05:52 AM
#22
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Precision strike on a mortar is not OP, but stealth ability on a tank destroyer is. Dat logic.
BeefSurge wrote:
A lot of people have an image of how they want a faction to play, leading to problems. This is why you have people complaining about lack of Soviet bunkers, why T34/76 sucks, why Cons don't scale, Grens don't get normal grenades, Muricans don't get heavy tank, OKW laser weapons and Die Glock Death Bell, etc.
A lot of people have an image of how they want a faction to play, leading to problems. This is why you have people complaining about lack of Soviet bunkers, why T34/76 sucks, why Cons don't scale, Grens don't get normal grenades, Muricans don't get heavy tank, OKW laser weapons and Die Glock Death Bell, etc.
17 Jun 2015, 06:26 AM
#23
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JP4 is fine
17 Jun 2015, 07:11 AM
#24
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JgPzIV need get camo only when stop moving.
I want to have the same chance, to win for each side.
17 Jun 2015, 07:13 AM
#25
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Precision strike on a mortar is not OP, but stealth ability on a tank destroyer is. Dat logic.
Your logic will be crushed within 24 hours, so you better come up with something new.
Maybe it's 'cause the Axis players aren't a bunch of forum crybabies, and they keep their cool and fight the uphill battle, unlike some of their "allied" counterparts.
17 Jun 2015, 08:02 AM
#26
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Permanently BannedOch, look at dem tears, someone cant spam t-34-85 cuz jagdpanzers are good counter to this bs
17 Jun 2015, 08:14 AM
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17 Jun 2015, 09:26 AM
#28
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Your logic will be crushed within 24 hours, so you better come up with something new.
Well no doubt it will be, and I'm verry curious. I will add that releasing patchnotes before the actual patch it's not something positive. I am sure we will club each other to death over something we didn't even experienced yet. I think that after patch notes release I will leave and comeback in 1 month. A hell of a shitstorm is comming.
BeefSurge wrote:
A lot of people have an image of how they want a faction to play, leading to problems. This is why you have people complaining about lack of Soviet bunkers, why T34/76 sucks, why Cons don't scale, Grens don't get normal grenades, Muricans don't get heavy tank, OKW laser weapons and Die Glock Death Bell, etc.
A lot of people have an image of how they want a faction to play, leading to problems. This is why you have people complaining about lack of Soviet bunkers, why T34/76 sucks, why Cons don't scale, Grens don't get normal grenades, Muricans don't get heavy tank, OKW laser weapons and Die Glock Death Bell, etc.
17 Jun 2015, 09:40 AM
#29
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IMO Jagdpanzer is just fine. I really had to learn to like it because not long ago I thought this tank was UP and I still think it is everything but OP.
It's penetration is by far not excellent as it even fails to penetrate shermans many times. Don't try to attack an IS2 with it as it will fail to pen 70% of the time (I watched Hans' Vet 5!! JP4 shots bouncing an IS2 all the time yesterday).
It is good against medium tanks, especially against USF but forget it against the heavies.
It's penetration is by far not excellent as it even fails to penetrate shermans many times. Don't try to attack an IS2 with it as it will fail to pen 70% of the time (I watched Hans' Vet 5!! JP4 shots bouncing an IS2 all the time yesterday).
It is good against medium tanks, especially against USF but forget it against the heavies.
It is though God by command has withdrawn every other throne.
And God is saying 'No. These people will deal with me alone.'
And God is saying 'No. These people will deal with me alone.'
17 Jun 2015, 10:04 AM
#30
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I am sure we will club each other to death over something we didn't even experienced yet.
Over something that you didn't even experienced yet. A lot of people have a chance to taste those changes for a couple of weeks. The only qestion is - would it be copy/paste, in this case people will know how it feels and plays, or with some changes, than it will be more speculative.
17 Jun 2015, 10:23 AM
#31
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or with some changes, than it will be more speculative.
Rather this.
BeefSurge wrote:
A lot of people have an image of how they want a faction to play, leading to problems. This is why you have people complaining about lack of Soviet bunkers, why T34/76 sucks, why Cons don't scale, Grens don't get normal grenades, Muricans don't get heavy tank, OKW laser weapons and Die Glock Death Bell, etc.
A lot of people have an image of how they want a faction to play, leading to problems. This is why you have people complaining about lack of Soviet bunkers, why T34/76 sucks, why Cons don't scale, Grens don't get normal grenades, Muricans don't get heavy tank, OKW laser weapons and Die Glock Death Bell, etc.
17 Jun 2015, 10:30 AM
#32
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Permanently BannedThe tank itself is unreliable, its vet 1 ability is a bit to much. Literally vanishing in 10 freet in front of tanks, needs some tweaks
Stalin is said to have replied: "What fool will sell us his secrets?"
17 Jun 2015, 10:37 AM
#33
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I think topic start was aiming at the +35% vision boost it gets at vet2. The vet1 camo should get a little cooldown maybe like 5sec so it cant insta vanish.
17 Jun 2015, 10:39 AM
#34
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The tank itself is unreliable, its vet 1 ability is a bit to much. Literally vanishing in 10 freet in front of tanks, needs some tweaks
What...
Its much better then SU-85 and people say SU-85 is fine.
Unreliable is last thing that matches JP4 description.
Maybe it's 'cause the Axis players aren't a bunch of forum crybabies, and they keep their cool and fight the uphill battle, unlike some of their "allied" counterparts.
17 Jun 2015, 11:45 AM
#35
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Ofc, precision strike is Op, but less than the SU-85 Master race of summer 2013 implemented on Jagpanzer 
When i played 2 months ago, a Jagpanzer could win vs Jackson because of this ...
He shooted the first everytime, poor jackson
don't know how it is now.
When i played 2 months ago, a Jagpanzer could win vs Jackson because of this ...
He shooted the first everytime, poor jackson
don't know how it is now.
I was ranked 1 in 1vs1 with the 4 factions available in 2015.
17 Jun 2015, 13:02 PM
#36
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What...
Its much better then SU-85 and people say SU-85 is fine.
Unreliable is last thing that matches JP4 description.
how often it bounces shermans, let alone an is2. Seen Hans's stream the other night? Vet 5 jagdpanzer 4 bounced like a maniac
Stalin is said to have replied: "What fool will sell us his secrets?"
17 Jun 2015, 13:11 PM
#37
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how often it bounces shermans, let alone an is2. Seen Hans's stream the other night? Vet 5 jagdpanzer 4 bounced like a maniac
Shermans...?
IS-2 got high armor, so it have about 50% chance to pen.
But shermans? Shermans are made of paper and JP4 rips them apart like paper. There is 100% penetration chance against shermans.
At absolutely worst case, against EZ8 it have 80% chance to pen. For comparison: SU-85 have 50% to pen panther at max range and 68% to pen vet2 P4.
Maybe it's 'cause the Axis players aren't a bunch of forum crybabies, and they keep their cool and fight the uphill battle, unlike some of their "allied" counterparts.
17 Jun 2015, 14:11 PM
#38
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EDIT : Wrong thread again rofl
I was ranked 1 in 1vs1 with the 4 factions available in 2015.
17 Jun 2015, 14:14 PM
#39
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Pretty sure this unit is straight up amazing right now if you are facing armor. At vet 5 it basically becomes unstoppable and the bonus it gets out of cloak is crazy good.
Unit needs to cloak slower, and cloak should be broken when unit moves forward, rotation would allow it to remain cloaked. It already has TD range (only ISU outranges it) and it has amazing vet. With cloak fixed unit would still be disgusting in good hands, but require good micro.
Unit needs to cloak slower, and cloak should be broken when unit moves forward, rotation would allow it to remain cloaked. It already has TD range (only ISU outranges it) and it has amazing vet. With cloak fixed unit would still be disgusting in good hands, but require good micro.
17 Jun 2015, 14:50 PM
#40
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Shermans...?
IS-2 got high armor, so it have about 50% chance to pen.
But shermans? Shermans are made of paper and JP4 rips them apart like paper. There is 100% penetration chance against shermans.
At absolutely worst case, against EZ8 it have 80% chance to pen. For comparison: SU-85 have 50% to pen panther at max range and 68% to pen vet2 P4.
Ah yes you ofcourse now what I experience during gameplay. It bounces shermans, without a doubt
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