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WHEN they will nerf Jagpanzer

17 Jun 2015, 00:13 AM
#21
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Stealth is op
17 Jun 2015, 05:52 AM
#22
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Precision strike on a mortar is not OP, but stealth ability on a tank destroyer is. Dat logic.
17 Jun 2015, 06:26 AM
#23
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17 Jun 2015, 07:11 AM
#24
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JgPzIV need get camo only when stop moving.
17 Jun 2015, 07:13 AM
#25
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jump backJump back to quoted post17 Jun 2015, 05:52 AMJohnnyB
Precision strike on a mortar is not OP, but stealth ability on a tank destroyer is. Dat logic.


Your logic will be crushed within 24 hours, so you better come up with something new. :snfBarton:
17 Jun 2015, 08:02 AM
#26
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Och, look at dem tears, someone cant spam t-34-85 cuz jagdpanzers are good counter to this bs
17 Jun 2015, 08:14 AM
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17 Jun 2015, 09:26 AM
#28
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jump backJump back to quoted post17 Jun 2015, 07:13 AMKatitof


Your logic will be crushed within 24 hours, so you better come up with something new. :snfBarton:


Well no doubt it will be, and I'm verry curious. I will add that releasing patchnotes before the actual patch it's not something positive. I am sure we will club each other to death over something we didn't even experienced yet. I think that after patch notes release I will leave and comeback in 1 month. A hell of a shitstorm is comming.
17 Jun 2015, 09:40 AM
#29
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IMO Jagdpanzer is just fine. I really had to learn to like it because not long ago I thought this tank was UP and I still think it is everything but OP.

It's penetration is by far not excellent as it even fails to penetrate shermans many times. Don't try to attack an IS2 with it as it will fail to pen 70% of the time (I watched Hans' Vet 5!! JP4 shots bouncing an IS2 all the time yesterday).

It is good against medium tanks, especially against USF but forget it against the heavies.
17 Jun 2015, 10:04 AM
#30
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jump backJump back to quoted post17 Jun 2015, 09:26 AMJohnnyB

I am sure we will club each other to death over something we didn't even experienced yet.

Over something that you didn't even experienced yet. A lot of people have a chance to taste those changes for a couple of weeks. The only qestion is - would it be copy/paste, in this case people will know how it feels and plays, or with some changes, than it will be more speculative.
17 Jun 2015, 10:23 AM
#31
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jump backJump back to quoted post17 Jun 2015, 10:04 AMnewvan

or with some changes, than it will be more speculative.


Rather this.
17 Jun 2015, 10:30 AM
#32
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The tank itself is unreliable, its vet 1 ability is a bit to much. Literally vanishing in 10 freet in front of tanks, needs some tweaks
17 Jun 2015, 10:37 AM
#33
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I think topic start was aiming at the +35% vision boost it gets at vet2. The vet1 camo should get a little cooldown maybe like 5sec so it cant insta vanish.
17 Jun 2015, 10:39 AM
#34
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The tank itself is unreliable, its vet 1 ability is a bit to much. Literally vanishing in 10 freet in front of tanks, needs some tweaks

What...
Its much better then SU-85 and people say SU-85 is fine.

Unreliable is last thing that matches JP4 description.
17 Jun 2015, 11:45 AM
#35
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Ofc, precision strike is Op, but less than the SU-85 Master race of summer 2013 implemented on Jagpanzer :thumbsup:

When i played 2 months ago, a Jagpanzer could win vs Jackson because of this ...

He shooted the first everytime, poor jackson :( don't know how it is now.
17 Jun 2015, 13:02 PM
#36
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jump backJump back to quoted post17 Jun 2015, 10:39 AMKatitof

What...
Its much better then SU-85 and people say SU-85 is fine.

Unreliable is last thing that matches JP4 description.


how often it bounces shermans, let alone an is2. Seen Hans's stream the other night? Vet 5 jagdpanzer 4 bounced like a maniac
17 Jun 2015, 13:11 PM
#37
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how often it bounces shermans, let alone an is2. Seen Hans's stream the other night? Vet 5 jagdpanzer 4 bounced like a maniac

Shermans...?

IS-2 got high armor, so it have about 50% chance to pen.

But shermans? Shermans are made of paper and JP4 rips them apart like paper. There is 100% penetration chance against shermans.
At absolutely worst case, against EZ8 it have 80% chance to pen. For comparison: SU-85 have 50% to pen panther at max range and 68% to pen vet2 P4.
17 Jun 2015, 14:11 PM
#38
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EDIT : Wrong thread again rofl
17 Jun 2015, 14:14 PM
#39
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Pretty sure this unit is straight up amazing right now if you are facing armor. At vet 5 it basically becomes unstoppable and the bonus it gets out of cloak is crazy good.

Unit needs to cloak slower, and cloak should be broken when unit moves forward, rotation would allow it to remain cloaked. It already has TD range (only ISU outranges it) and it has amazing vet. With cloak fixed unit would still be disgusting in good hands, but require good micro.
17 Jun 2015, 14:50 PM
#40
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jump backJump back to quoted post17 Jun 2015, 13:11 PMKatitof

Shermans...?

IS-2 got high armor, so it have about 50% chance to pen.

But shermans? Shermans are made of paper and JP4 rips them apart like paper. There is 100% penetration chance against shermans.
At absolutely worst case, against EZ8 it have 80% chance to pen. For comparison: SU-85 have 50% to pen panther at max range and 68% to pen vet2 P4.


Ah yes you ofcourse now what I experience during gameplay. It bounces shermans, without a doubt
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